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Old 07-15-2009, 05:01 PM   #461
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Gozer, you should go do this. Then yes it would be advice. But just for you I altered it.
Ahh yes, advising someone else to go do something you yourself lack the courage to try.
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:01 PM   #462
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...Has anyone seen the film Religulous?...............any comment on it?
I actually thought Religulous was pretty entertaining, and I quite liked Bill Maher's closing statement for the film:

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"That’s it: Grow up, or die."
But let's be clear: Maher's movie was not so much about "religion" as it was about apocalypticism.
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:17 PM   #463
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Ahh yes, advising someone else to go do something you yourself lack the courage to try.
? where is this? I lack courage? HA! Assuming again. These are direct from Acts. Broken down.

I'm sure face to face with authority you would shy away from anything remotely questioning their "authority" in fear for loosing the scraps you have.
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:42 PM   #464
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? where is this? I lack courage? HA! Assuming again. These are direct from Acts. Broken down.

I'm sure face to face with authority you would shy away from anything remotely questioning their "authority" in fear for loosing the scraps you have.

So have you gone and got things for free before?
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:01 PM   #465
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So have you gone and got things for free before?
We all have gone and got things for free before!

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"Bills of Exchange is fun too.

I never get a bill at a gas station. Or any other place. Strange isnt it! Without a true bill I have no obligation to pay! Not an invoice or a receipt. I can ask for a true bill. If that can not be produced I tell them that I have no obligation to pay!

This one needs more study but my remedy is there."

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Old 07-15-2009, 06:04 PM   #466
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We all have gone and got things for free before!

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"Bills of Exchange is fun too.

I never get a bill at a gas station. Or any other place. Strange isnt it! Without a true bill I have no obligation to pay! Not an invoice or a receipt. I can ask for a true bill. If that can not be produced I tell them that I have no obligation to pay!

This one needs more study but my remedy is there."

So you're just a dishonest creep? They (gas station) provides you a service within a certain honour system, ie. you are not obliged to pay before filling your tank. Instead of paying for the gas, you produce your cute little private findings and just steal the gas.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:16 PM   #467
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So you're just a dishonest creep? They (gas station) provides you a service within a certain honour system, ie. you are not obliged to pay before filling your tank. Instead of paying for the gas, you produce your cute little private findings and just steal the gas.
Nope. But as I stated this needs more research. The hounor system, I believe, exists for the people only if the "money" we use is backed by anything of value (gold standard).

However the bills of exchange does give remedy to both sides and allow anyone a form of payment; not just the paper in your wallet. It seems you just did not understand the Big post I made earlier. It's okay. It is a lot to take in.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:22 PM   #468
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:34 PM   #469
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"We're living in a society here!" - George Castanza
What is the name of your Society?

*edit* Society - A number of people, joined by MUTUAL consent, to deliberate, determine and act for a common goal.

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I'm sure Obama is quaking with fear and/or laughter. Even if some jerkwater jesusfreak judge ruled he was ineligible to be POTUS, it's a long long long way from there to the Supreme Court where such a case would eventually be decided, if it had any merit, which it doesn't.
APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION

"It is obvious that this case has the potential to be converted into a class action on behalf of all military servicemen and women who require the means of establishing the legality of their orders with certainty."

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What is the name of your Society?

*edit* Society - A number of people, joined by MUTUAL consent, to deliberate, determine and act for a common goal.
Why the emphasis on mutual? Do you feel it is not mutual? If so, why not bail out? You don't have to live like the rest of us.

Anyway, it seems kind of strange to me that the biggest (or soon to be biggest) media company in the world is the vehicle for all these conspiracy theories. The whole movement runs on Youtube videos, and give us all sorts of juicy quotes like "this is what the media doesn't want you to know" and "the powers that be keep us in the dark" and all that. Do you see the absurdity of all this? It's no different than going on CNN and saying "CNN won't let me say this, but Freemasons run the country. It's all hush-hush. Now over to Wolf Blitzer".
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APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION

"It is obvious that this case has the potential to be converted into a class action on behalf of all military servicemen and women who require the means of establishing the legality of their orders with certainty."

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No tinfoil

This is obviously a farce.

The fourteenth amendment was framed over 100 years ago, and I suspect that if there is an issue with Obama's qualifications because of this, the definition of "natural born citizen" will be revisited and revised. No chance this results in his removal from office, as the broader ramifications of such action would be untenable.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:11 PM   #473
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Why the emphasis on mutual? Do you feel it is not mutual? If so, why not bail out? You don't have to live like the rest of us.

Anyway, it seems kind of strange to me that the biggest (or soon to be biggest) media company in the world is the vehicle for all these conspiracy theories. The whole movement runs on Youtube videos, and give us all sorts of juicy quotes like "this is what the media doesn't want you to know" and "the powers that be keep us in the dark" and all that. Do you see the absurdity of all this? It's no different than going on CNN and saying "CNN won't let me say this, but Freemasons run the country. It's all hush-hush. Now over to Wolf Blitzer".
EXCELLENT SUGGESTION! This is being done, but is much more difficult than you think.

Mutual also is in the LAWS of a SOCIETY.

They are not my Statues or Acts. I am not with the Law Society. I am not bound to them. Only the Law society and those who wish to remain children/dependents of the Province. However steps have to be taken to let them know and not allow a rebuttal from the Law society and Defacto Governments.

Youtube is censored, but only to some subscribers.
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This is obviously a farce.

The fourteenth amendment was framed over 100 years ago, and I suspect that if there is an issue with Obama's qualifications because of this, the definition of "natural born citizen" will be revisited and revised. No chance this results in his removal from office, as the broader ramifications of such action would be untenable.
Well, the other arguments are as well, lawful orders. Many feel the war is unlawful and are sick of fighting it... Support your troops. It works both ways.

To change an Amendment is HUGE. Bigger than any President.
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...To change an Amendment is HUGE. Bigger than any President.
You can't honestly believe that anyone of real consequence is taking this at all seriously. I don't think the amendment needs to be changed; likely re-interpreted to ensure that such a triviality is not a stumbling point in the future.

The alternative would be what? Biden? McCain and Palin? A new election? Do you honestly think that even a fraction of the population in the US has the stomach for that?
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Youtube is censored, but only to some subscribers.
What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
As an example - the over dramatic and loud Alex Jones.

While he does drive people nuts... He was censored.

Even David Icke isn't censored...

For those who don't know this guy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

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According to writer David Icke, 7-foot (2.1 m) tall, blood-drinking, shape-shifting reptilian humanoids from the star system Alpha Draconis are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at humanity. He claims that the reptilians maintain their control through the generation of fear and negative emotion, which is food to these entities, by manufacturing conflicts, primarily wars. He contends that most of the world's leaders are in fact related to these reptilians.[7] Icke's theories now have supporters in 47 countries and he frequently gives lectures to crowds of 2500 or more.[8][9]
Icke draws connections between the reptilian aliens in his theories and the Annunaki depicted in Zecharia Sitchin's 12th Planet,[10] which has led to other conspiracy theorists referring to reptilian humanoids as the "Annunaki";[11] however, Sitchin himself has always described his Annunaki as purely humanoid.


This is stuff for movies.

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You can't honestly believe that anyone of real consequence is taking this at all seriously. I don't think the amendment needs to be changed; likely re-interpreted to ensure that such a triviality is not a stumbling point in the future.

The alternative would be what? Biden? McCain and Palin? A new election? Do you honestly think that even a fraction of the population in the US has the stomach for that?
I don't have first hand knowledge of the case. Officers seem to be questioning the Governing bodies now. Good for them. Questions need answers and everyone in Common Law should never be afraid to ask them. Officer or not.
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*edit* Society - A number of people, joined by MUTUAL consent, to deliberate, determine and act for a common goal.
As has been said, you are welcome to withdraw your consent at any time by emigrating. Personally I hope all the hard-core Libertarians emigrate to Somalia so they can live without government, the die-hard authoritarians move to Myanmar so they can enjoy permanent martial law, and the few deluded socialists left all move to North Korea where they can salute the Dear Leader.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anywhere where your "theories" are currently being practiced, so the best I can suggest is to go the route of the Hutterites and start your own colony of Towerians.
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Can't vouch for the site at all, but it's the snopes link to the dismissal of this stupid idea once before http://www.scribd.com/doc/13033400/Dismiss-Memorandum

aaaand here's the entire snopes article http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

But it's probably a cover up right? Conspiracy? Personally I think the lizard guy theory is pretty good...
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