10-19-2025, 05:31 PM
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#461
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I think many of you are selling Reschny short. He has the tools to be a 1C.
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Bobby Clarke style center. Not small, but not big. Not the best skater but like a dog on a bone. Great player possibly.
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10-20-2025, 11:57 AM
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#462
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Like a young Mike Richards in Philly before his career went elsewhere.
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10-20-2025, 12:09 PM
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#463
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba17
Bobby Clarke style center. Not small, but not big. Not the best skater but like a dog on a bone. Great player possibly.
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Would be awesome if the flames strong skating coach system pays off big for Reschny and he turns it into a strength rather than a weakness. Combine his skillset with above-average skating and he could be an absolute steal of a pick.
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10-20-2025, 12:31 PM
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#464
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Would be awesome if the flames strong skating coach system pays off big for Reschny and he turns it into a strength rather than a weakness. Combine his skillset with above-average skating and he could be an absolute steal of a pick.
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It really depends on Reschny. These skating coaches like Fujita and Underhill have great suggestions and drills. But just doing their sessions doesn't work - the player has to committ to working on it (like Point). Tkachuk took lessons from Fujita but, as you might expect from his personality, I don't think he followed up diligently. He obviously has elite skills that make up for it, but his skating didn't improve.
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10-20-2025, 01:00 PM
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#466
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Knut
She flat out told me once that #19 did not want to listen and did not bother trying to get better.
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The story I got was he told her "it feels awkward but I'll try"
I guess he didn't try very hard
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10-20-2025, 01:07 PM
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#467
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I wonder how long Tkachuk's career will be. He's an undeniable talent but the guys who go for years can usually skate well, like Selanne, Ovechkin, Pavelski, Suter, Perry, Kopitar. Jagr was kind of an exception at the end of his career but he was also almost never hurt.
If Tkachuk won't work on skating, does he work on fitness (or just cut fun videos with his brother in the off season).
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10-20-2025, 01:09 PM
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#468
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Franchise Player
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Tkachuk has likely had his best season(s)
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10-20-2025, 01:32 PM
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#469
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I know for a fact that both Tkachuk brothers have trained with the Blues skating coach in the summer. Might just be a stylistic fit.
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10-20-2025, 01:35 PM
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#470
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
I know for a fact that both Tkachuk brothers have trained with the Blues skating coach in the summer. Might just be a stylistic fit.
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Or he learned as he matured, especially now having to deal with injuries. Though it's probably harder now to change old habits.
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10-20-2025, 01:42 PM
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#471
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Franchise Player
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He was still a Flame when he did this. I think it was 2021 when I first saw it, but it was more than just one summer
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10-20-2025, 01:45 PM
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#472
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
It really depends on Reschny. These skating coaches like Fujita and Underhill have great suggestions and drills. But just doing their sessions doesn't work - the player has to committ to working on it (like Point). Tkachuk took lessons from Fujita but, as you might expect from his personality, I don't think he followed up diligently. He obviously has elite skills that make up for it, but his skating didn't improve.
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There’s no reason to believe Tkachuk hasn’t trained diligently on his skating. Not everyone can be trained to improve their skating substantially. Just like you can’t train everyone to sprint the 100m faster. A lot of it is innate physiology and biomechanics.
As for his longevity, Tkachuk’s hockey iQ and hands are elite. Lots of guys with those traits who aren’t great skaters have long careers. Oates, Thornton, Perry, Pavelski - none were great skaters in their prime, and still produced at a high level once they were downright slow. Mark Stone has never been a good skater, and he’s still a top-line player at age 33.
Tkachuk won’t be leading rushes in his 30s. But I expect he’ll still be elite down low and around the net.
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Last edited by CliffFletcher; 10-20-2025 at 01:57 PM.
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10-20-2025, 01:54 PM
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#473
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Knut
She flat out told me once that #19 did not want to listen and did not bother trying to get better.
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Thats why it was highly concerning signing him to 8 years X $10mil back then if he decided to stay.
Who knew his average skating was a-ok for the eastern conference and he became the horny unicorn he has blossomed into.
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10-20-2025, 01:58 PM
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#474
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electric boogaloo
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There are a million of these coaches. My kid is doing fujita this week. But they are not a catch all where they will get this amazing skating skill. It has to work. There are so many of them and they all are different and work better with phisiology.
My kid has done:
- Boris Dorzhenko - Auston Matthews phoenix coach. Bizarre stuff what he does but super cool.
- Fujita in Calgary
- Mike Evans who is Ryker Evans dad.
- Josh Morissey's dad Tom.
- Candace Behm.
- Brayden points dad.
- A million others in Calgary alone. Pettapiece, kluner, etc.
I cannot tell which makes him better or worse. It is extremely not simple.
It is not this one size fits all thing. It is way more complex like Tkachuk was just being arrogant. You can't just add a dash of Fujita.
And to add, east west is way more important. I will swear by it but Daryl Belfry is the best skills coach on the planet, and the best players agree. His camps are revelatory and amazing just to watch. His camps are pricy but multiple people record them.
He doesn't even do children things anymore, just NHLers. Flames need to acquire him.
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10-20-2025, 02:07 PM
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#475
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
There’s no reason to believe Tkachuk hasn’t trained diligently on his skating. Not everyone can be trained to improve their skating substantially. Just like you can’t train everyone to sprint the 100m faster. A lot of it is innate physiology and biomechanics.
As for his longevity, Tkachuk’s hockey iQ and hands are elite. Lots of guys with those traits who aren’t great skaters have long careers. Oates, Thornton, Perry, Pavelski - none were great skaters in their prime, and still produced at a high level once they were downright slow. Mark Stone has never been a good skater, and he’s still a top-line player at age 33.
Tkachuk won’t be leading rushes in his 30s. But I expect he’ll still be elite down low and around the net.
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Well, there literally are people in this thread saying he didn't previously. That's a "reason to believe".
If he's re-dedicated himself to skating, good on him. But it seems like he didn't when he was here according to commenters who seem to know.
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10-20-2025, 02:14 PM
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#476
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electric boogaloo
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Well, there literally are people in this thread saying he didn't previously. That's a "reason to believe".
If he's re-dedicated himself to skating, good on him. But it seems like he didn't when he was here according to commenters who seem to know.
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Dedicated to his skating seems so silly for someone making that money and two Stanley cups.
Work on your skills and brain, the skating is set in stone by now.
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10-20-2025, 03:02 PM
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#477
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by fotze2
Dedicated to his skating seems so silly for someone making that money and two Stanley cups.
Work on your skills and brain, the skating is set in stone by now.
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Well, we were talking about Reschny and how just skating lessons wouldn't improve him - practicing it would. It's not about Tkachuk, though the mere mention of a flaw in his game seems to anger people. And wouldn't he be making a good thing even better if he improved his mobility? Not to mention avoiding injury more?
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10-20-2025, 04:35 PM
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#478
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electric boogaloo
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Well, we were talking about Reschny and how just skating lessons wouldn't improve him - practicing it would. It's not about Tkachuk, though the mere mention of a flaw in his game seems to anger people. And wouldn't he be making a good thing even better if he improved his mobility? Not to mention avoiding injury more?
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I thought you were referring to Tkachuk. Sorry.
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10-20-2025, 04:59 PM
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#479
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze2
I thought you were referring to Tkachuk. Sorry.
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The conversation was how Reschny could possibly improve his skating but would need to put in the work, and Point versus Tkachuk were the examples of players who did and didn’t.
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