[Rumour] Chris Johnston: Lindholm is interested in staying

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Think you're wrong about that. The scorched earth crowd wants to chuck everybody, including Huby, Weegar and Kadri, Lindholm, Hanafin, Toffoli, Markstrom. There may also be others.

First: that's not going to happen without massive discounts and salary retentions and neither of those is going to provide "seeds".

Second: if everyone brought in is young....who is going to show them how to be professionals on the ice? (One of the small benefits of Looch.) Yes, the coaches will do that...but it's different on the ice.

You just can't dump everyone. There's a middle ground and it's - if done with care and thought and planning - the optimal path. I'm not smart enough to know what that is, but I'm pretty sure that the radical crap spewed on here by some posters isn't "it".

Oh yeah, if people are expecting Huberdeau or Kadri to get traded any time soon (if ever), I think they’re out to lunch.

I generally think the best approach right now is gather as many future related assets (picks, prospects) and load the system up that way. I don’t know if this team will ever outright tank, I doubt it - but the next best thing is to get ruthless on trading players for futures. We need the bullets in the chamber, and if we can hit on enough of them we then stand a chance to build a team filled with youth that can perhaps bring in the next wave of Flames hockey that maybe even makes use of Huby and Kadri’s time here in Calgary.

[dammage79]

I think you're locked into Weegar and Huberdeau. The rest? Freaking giver

And I definitely think Kadri can be moved.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Maybe he needs to sell his stake in the team, if doing business like a real Stanley Cup contender is too rich for his blood.

I don’t get it. Pay Huberdeau $84M instead of slashing payroll for a couple years and getting some guys who can sell you jerseys for 10-15 years.

Who in Canada are spending more money than the Flames?

He did give Treliving enough to build a contender. It’s not his fault Treliving wasted a lot on useless UFAs

Now they are in a tough spot after the mess Treliving created and ran.


Not a contender, not in position to rebuild properly

[ComixZone]

Haynes hits it here perfectly:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1672636754732646401

[Spurs]

I can't see how we are going to be able to move Coleman, Hubredeau or Kadri's deal without attaching picks to pay teams to take them and that defeats the purpose during a rebuild.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think you're locked into Weegar and Huberdeau. The rest? Freaking giver

And I definitely think Kadri can be moved.

Nobody except Treliving wanted to sign him for free

Who is going to take that contract now after the stunt he did?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I can't see how we are going to be able to move Coleman, Hubredeau or Kadri's deal without attaching picks to pay teams to take them and that defeats the purpose during a rebuild.

That’s why you just sit back with them and don’t add to the problem.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think you're locked into Weegar and Huberdeau. The rest? Freaking giver

And I definitely think Kadri can be moved.

I think Weegar is infinitely more movable then Kadri

[Manhattanboy]

Keep Weegar. Has heart.

Please trade Kadri. He’s a whiner and quitter. What he pulled against Chicago is inexcusable. Do not want to see him in a Flames jersey again.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Nobody except Treliving wanted to sign him for free

Who is going to take that contract now after the stunt he did?

Lol this isn't true

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think Weegar is infinitely more movable then Kadri

Yes, but I don't see the Flames moving him at all. They love him.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Haynes hits it here perfectly:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1672636754732646401

Nailed it.

I'd also add that Lindholm in particular seems to be taking his sweet-ass time deciding whether he even wants to stay, even after being presented with a contract that pays him well beyond his worth. Isn't that the exact kind of mercenary attitude we're looking to get rid of?

Deal them all and don't look back. We've got enough long-term problems with Kadri and Huberdeau without adding another headache to the pile.

[dammage79]

Jesus, we don't know anything. At least on ice we know Kadri had attitude issues. WYF has Huberdeau done to part of the problem? Why because he signed a contract?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Think you're wrong about that. The scorched earth crowd wants to chuck everybody, including Huby, Weegar and Kadri, Lindholm, Hanafin, Toffoli, Markstrom. There may also be others.

First: that's not going to happen without massive discounts and salary retentions and neither of those is going to provide "seeds".

Second: if everyone brought in is young....who is going to show them how to be professionals on the ice? (One of the small benefits of Looch.) Yes, the coaches will do that...but it's different on the ice.

You just can't dump everyone. There's a middle ground and it's - if done with care and thought and planning - the optimal path. I'm not smart enough to know what that is, but I'm pretty sure that the radical crap spewed on here by some posters isn't "it".

You can’t move all of them right now or this off-season or during the next season.

What you can do is recognize that the collection of players you have assembled is not good enough to do anything except get speed bagged in the first round by the eventual champions à la Nashville last year with a Colorado and the Jets this year against Vegas, and allow your new GM to sell off the assets he has in due course, with the goal of assembling a new group of young, fast, talented players who can actually contend when your $1.2B arena project opens to the public.

None of these players have a reason to want to be here except for money and you can’t win anything when that’s your only motivation.

Because you’ll be playing against teams with more and better players who play for each other because they grew up together.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lol this isn't true

It’s very true for that contract. The Isles or Jersey showed some interest but they didn’t want to give him what he wanted. He had to wait a long time

Anyway after he quit on the team, I doubt anybody value him the same way

Dud is 33 and about to start a long term overpaid contract

He has no real value

https://www.nhltraderumor.com/why-di...ork-islanders/

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Yes, but I don't see the Flames moving him at all. They love him.

That makes sense then. Also other teams were willing to sign Kadri, unfortunately he just chose the Flames

[camm13]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think you're locked into Weegar and Huberdeau. The rest? Freaking giver

And I definitely think Kadri can be moved.

Weegars contract is good for what he is, RH top pairing guy who eats a ton of minutes.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

It’s very true for that contract. The Isles or Jersey showed some interest but they didn’t want to give him what he wanted. He had to wait a long time

Anyway after he quit on the team, I doubt anybody value him the same way

Dud is 33 and about to start a long term overpaid contract

He has no real value

https://www.nhltraderumor.com/why-di...ork-islanders/

About to start? He started last season

Your link says the Islanders wanted to sign him but couldn't clear the cap

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by camm13

Weegars contract is good for what he is, RH top pairing guy who eats a ton of minutes.

Teams were trying to get Weegar at the deadline, you could trade him in about 30 seconds

Some odd takes on CP

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by camm13

Weegars contract is good for what he is, RH top pairing guy who eats a ton of minutes.

Weegar is the best shot-suppression D at 5v5 in the entire league.