[News] UPD: Tkachuk arbitration hearing set for Aug 11

[Ashes]

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Because he’s a rental. Or else you are trading signing rights, which never get much.

He can still sign a long-term deal with a new team before arbitration. The Flames were offered the 2nd overall pick for him two weeks ago.

I don't think they'll get that kind of value, but the return should be big.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Man are the US and the UK ever loaded with information about Canada and how bad it is. It’s kind of hilarious.

We are a distraction, we are not relevant.

Well I agree with the poster. We have a government that has no fiscal responsibility and is ruining the country through bad policy.

We are not irrelevant and the country does have a dwindling reputation.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Britflamesfan

I am sorry to say this guys especially after I had three fantastic years living in Alberta but right now Canada is very rapidly gaining a very poor reputation abroad. Your PM and Govt seem to be doing their best to trash Canada and the rest of the world is looking on with shock. Does not surprise me if players don't want to come or stay. That said the US/UK/EU are also not happy places to live at the moment.

Just curious. Is this talk of Canada going down the crapper really widespread in Britain? I was born there and have family still there and I've had some weird messages out of the blue from my aunt who rarely ever messages me, asking how we are doing like we're in the Ukraine or something.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

It's not like Canada had way stiffer rules than many states did. If that's what makes them freak out and go home then they don't have what it takes to win a cup anyway.

Family not being able to cross the border was the issue. I really doubt will happen again, but in Gaudreau's instance, if borders were closed neither her nor family could travel to visit baby. Which isn't an ideal family scenario.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Just curious. Is this talk of Canada going down the crapper really widespread in Britain? I was born there and have family still there and I've had some weird messages out of the blue from my aunt who rarely ever messages me, asking how we are doing like we're in the Ukraine or something.

Rupert Murdoch controls a bunch of the media there. They give out their ridiculous 1/2 truths and I'm sure people buy that we are all locked in our houses with armed guards making sure we don't move or that the freedom convoy is prepared to take over the government, etc.

We've got Postmedia here which isn't nearly as ridiculous and it still gets people off their rockers.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Honestly mindblowing that more american players don't see Calgary as second home material.

Literally nominated most livable city in North America.

But ok, go back to your air polluted, densely populated, gun violence riddled place of origin without a mountain or decent sized hill.

Both Tkachuk and Gaudreau are city boys. I can't see either going hiking in the middle of the Calgary winter. There are some players who specifically pursue the more outdoor activities....just not these guys.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Brits giving lectures about the state of our political situation or being a nation with a reputational decline is just hilarious to me. Brexit, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Scottish independence, Northern Ireland...they live in a state of perpetual political instability.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Knut

FYI on Twitter Boomer says there is a 0% chance of Tkachuk signing long term.

Since when is Boomer usually right on anything?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Can't believe American players are the new Russian players. This is ridiculous.

There won't be restrictions like we saw in 2020-2021 again.


Draft native swedes, finns and Canadians only from this point forward!

Bold of you to think Canadians want to play in Canada

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Since when is Boomer usually right on anything?

He's pretty connected to many of the players.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Honestly mindblowing that more american players don't see Calgary as second home material.

Literally nominated most livable city in North America.

But ok, go back to your air polluted, densely populated, gun violence riddled place of origin without a mountain or decent sized hill.

It just depends where in the US. Like any country, some places are much more livable than others. I couldn't live in the Southern US. For me that's not my vibe at all. I lived in Alberta for 24 years (Calgary was 5 years or so of that timeline). I've lived in California for the past 12 years. Certain things that can't even be controlled that are a big difference is the weather. The weather where I live in California is pleasant all year around. In the entire week there might be 2 weeks where it gets really hot. That versus 5 months or so of cold weather takes a toll.

When I lived in Canada I absolutely loved it and I will always be Canadian forever. But when you move to or grow up in a place like California, and then you go back to Alberta you see the difference, and I'm not surprised players want to leave. I'm not knocking Alberta, it's my home and I grew up there. But there is just a lot more opportunity here, things to do, etc and as aforementioned the weather. No question as you mentioned in certain parts of the country gun control or no scenery is there. That's why I picked where I did. Places like Detroit, etc there is a lot of crime per capita and overall it's just depressing in my opinion to be there. Every country has it's flaws and areas that might not be for everyone.

Honestly at the end of the day there is no right or wrong. People just need to be where they feel the most comfortable. It's a preference thing.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by chedder

Steinberg thinks Chucky's gone too. I think we all need to prepare to be extremely underwhelmed by the return.

https://twitter.com/Fan960Steinberg/...flE0kAmKQ&s=19

Of course your stance is we will be overwhelmed by the return. This place is becoming so negative oriented this offseason it is unbearable.

[PeteMoss]

A trade is probably the best move for the Flames long term. But they have to commit to a rebuild and not just muddle along trying to contend with non-contending roster.

[Bingo]

So just couldn't catch up with this monster topic.

Did we land on no downside for electing to take him to arbitration?

Avoids him taking the QO on Friday and buys them more time to trade him without a short term deadline? (Or negotiate a long term contract if you think there's still a chance)

Saw a lot of negative comments early in the topic but didn't want to reply 24 hours after the fact.

[Britflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Just curious. Is this talk of Canada going down the crapper really widespread in Britain? I was born there and have family still there and I've had some weird messages out of the blue from my aunt who rarely ever messages me, asking how we are doing like we're in the Ukraine or something.

I know it might surprise some people on here, but yes the UK still follows what is happening in Canada with interest, you are and I hope will continue to be allies and friends. I am only saying what is being said in the news and in the media. Our PM has proven to be a liar and a rule breaker but at least the Party has got rid of him. Your PM seems to be just as bad plus throw in very authortarian and yet he keeps getting voted back in. Anyhow, when things are not going well in the world it is not un usual for people to head home and that is what I was trying to point out.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He's pretty connected to many of the players.

Ok, I just seem to remember him whiffing on a few things but if Steinberg is also saying it that is too much smoke.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Bingo

So just couldn't catch up with this monster topic.

Did we land on no downside for electing to take him to arbitration?

Avoids him taking the QO on Friday and buys them more time to trade him without a short term deadline? (Or negotiate a long term contract if you think there's still a chance)

Saw a lot of negative comments early in the topic but didn't want to reply 24 hours after the fact.

I think 0 downside to your point.

But another data point that points to maybe a trade will be how this situation ends being more likely, which is making people sad Pandas. Understandably so.

[saillias]

I think the return on Tkachuk will be good. Ritch Winter, Mangiapane's agent, was openly speculating on potential returns on air with Francis yesterday, oddly enough. Mention of a Debrincat type or young top defenseman.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

The confirmation bias here is out of control. This isn't your political grievance thread.