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Old 05-07-2022, 12:41 PM   #461
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Particularly those that ONLY post after a loss.
That's just odd.
It’s not some conspiracy like you are thinking

Some people only speak when they are frustrated, otherwise they are content and quiet

Just like some people wants to be loud when they are happy , and disappear when they are sad
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:47 PM   #462
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For me it’s more about my mental health. In the past I would go “all in” emotionally, and the round one upsets were devastating. I think the 2006 game seven loss to the Ducks was the final straw. They were so flat and lifeless in that loss I had to ask myself why should I care more than they appeared to. If they make it past Dallas, I’ll feel a bit safer getting my hopes up.

Fool me 20 times, shame on you, fool me 21 times, shame on me, kind of deal.

I don’t usually post in game threads, just read along to see what others are feeling about the game. I never read post game threads after a loss, as they sure are negative.
I get way too emotionally invested. If we lose this series I am going to have to take a long break from the game. Maybe a year or two.
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:53 PM   #463
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It’s not some conspiracy like you are thinking

Some people only speak when they are frustrated, otherwise they are content and quiet

Just like some people wants to be loud when they are happy , and disappear when they are sad
Yeah I agree. You have to acknowledge that this is an outlet for frustration for some people and they might experience joy in a different way that is not visible on a message board.
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:55 PM   #464
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I get way too emotionally invested. If we lose this series I am going to have to take a long break from the game. Maybe a year or two.
I say this every playoffs

and then somehow I am out there at winsport for july dev camp getting my hopes up again
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Old 05-07-2022, 01:05 PM   #465
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Honest question to those that lean to the negative side (and honestly this isn't meant to be pissy).

Why?

Does it make you feel better?
How do you feel if you're wrong? Do you feel silly if the Flames win both in Dallas or do you just move on?

I've never understood the looking at hockey (life) from the worst possible outcome angle, just curious.
100% of my negative posts are meant to mock the eternal pessimists. The scary part is that no matter how outlandish and endlessly negative the content of my posts, there’s always multiple posters who a) agree and/or b) post something even more negative. Except they so frequently disappear during the good times that I like to post bad opinions in their absence.

As I’ve said before, being a negative sports fan is for the lazy. It’s way more likely your team(s) will fail. Constantly ####ting on the team and predicting doom is the easy way out.
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Old 05-07-2022, 01:06 PM   #466
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For me it’s more about my mental health. In the past I would go “all in” emotionally, and the round one upsets were devastating. I think the 2006 game seven loss to the Ducks was the final straw. They were so flat and lifeless in that loss I had to ask myself why should I care more than they appeared to. If they make it past Dallas, I’ll feel a bit safer getting my hopes up.

Fool me 20 times, shame on you, fool me 21 times, shame on me, kind of deal.

I don’t usually post in game threads, just read along to see what others are feeling about the game. I never read post game threads after a loss, as they sure are negative.
I'm similar, I remember being very depressed after that 2006 game 7 loss, and the next 3 straight first round exits killed my enthusiasm. It wasn't until 2018-2019 that I started buying in again and made an effort to watch every game I could, but after wasting $250 on tickets to game 5 only to be devastated yet again I gave up. I might get more invested if they actually get past Dallas this year, but I'm certainty not expecting a deep run
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Old 05-07-2022, 01:13 PM   #467
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100% of my negative posts are meant to mock the eternal pessimists. The scary part is that no matter how outlandish and endlessly negative the content of my posts, there’s always multiple posters who a) agree and/or b) post something even more negative. Except they so frequently disappear during the good times that I like to post bad opinions in their absence.

As I’ve said before, being a negative sports fan is for the lazy. It’s way more likely your team(s) will fail. Constantly ####ting on the team and predicting doom is the easy way out.
Yup, and childish too, IMO
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Old 05-07-2022, 01:50 PM   #468
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It’s not some conspiracy like you are thinking

Some people only speak when they are frustrated, otherwise they are content and quiet

Just like some people wants to be loud when they are happy , and disappear when they are sad
But then how do you feel when you're wrong? When you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater and clearly over reacted?

Is it a regret thing? Feel silly?

Or is it a mental hedge? If I'm right and they lose then at least I was right. If I'm wrong and they win, I'm still happy?

Honestly just curious. I'm a very positive person, in all aspects of life. I don't bog down on the negative stuff almost ever.
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Old 05-07-2022, 02:00 PM   #469
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But then how do you feel when you're wrong? When you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater and clearly over reacted?

Is it a regret thing? Feel silly?

Or is it a mental hedge? If I'm right and they lose then at least I was right. If I'm wrong and they win, I'm still happy?

Honestly just curious. I'm a very positive person, in all aspects of life. I don't bog down on the negative stuff almost ever.
As someone who is very positive typically, outside of pro sports, for me it's a mental hedge

That being said, I don't really post here only on negative or positive things...I try to do both on balance but what someone said earlier is true. Lots love to rent and vent and I think that's what we see versus "only posting" for negative events.
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Old 05-07-2022, 03:20 PM   #470
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But then how do you feel when you're wrong? When you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater and clearly over reacted?

Is it a regret thing? Feel silly?

Or is it a mental hedge? If I'm right and they lose then at least I was right. If I'm wrong and they win, I'm still happy?

Honestly just curious. I'm a very positive person, in all aspects of life. I don't bog down on the negative stuff almost ever.
Thats a skill in its own right but not easily attainable for many, conquering the mind in my opinion is the toughest challenge in life. Good for you, not everyone is like that, so lets not jump down peoples throat if they are more pessimistic than optimistic (talking in general, not about you specifically). Its a fan forum where people are going to express their opinion whenever they choose.

I'm not agreeing with all the negative commentary, some outlandish comments deserve to be called out, but if people are concerned and or commenting on how this teams past performance may be an indicator of future performance, that is a completely logical stance.

I had my doubts going into the playoffs, after the first 2 games they are creeping back in but i'll be watching tonight still cheering for every goal, save, blocked shot, hopefully win. I'm not hedging to save face. I give my opinion based on what my eyes see, if i'm wrong i'm wrong. I'm back in Calgary for the time being because I want to be a part of hopefully a long playoff run.

We are all Flames fans.

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Old 05-07-2022, 04:17 PM   #471
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But then how do you feel when you're wrong? When you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater and clearly over reacted?

Is it a regret thing? Feel silly?

Or is it a mental hedge? If I'm right and they lose then at least I was right. If I'm wrong and they win, I'm still happy?

Honestly just curious. I'm a very positive person, in all aspects of life. I don't bog down on the negative stuff almost ever.

It’s simple. I cheer for the team unequivocally and hope for the best.

I had great hopes for this team given what I saw this regular season (and your analysis tbh).

The first two games of this series the Flames have not played the way they can which brings back memories of constant disappointment. So yes I’ve gone from optimistic to pessimistic.

Doesn’t change the fact that I cheer and want them to win.
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Very interesting reading everyone's personal psychoanalysis here.

For me, I've had to dial my personal investment back to about 75 percent of 2004 levels over time to keep my fandom from interfering with overall happiness. I think it's because I am an optimist who keeps trying to believe.
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Flames shut out for a lunar cycle, and at risk of losing home ice. lol
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3 days in and Flames shutout for 115 minutes and lose home ice.

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Old 05-07-2022, 06:46 PM   #474
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Last two years have been a pretty negative experience for me as a Flames fan. It's been super easy to feed the negative, they've given plenty reason to.

This year I've dialed way back active participation here and have just enjoyed watching the games when I can solo and texting my brother, it's been....healthier.

Still doesn't negate the fact that there's a knot in my stomach in anticipation of another 1st round bow out.

Sutter himself can be quoted all the reg season stuff doesn't mean a thing unless they make some headway in the playoffs.

All I need to ve happy is a win of the 1st round . It's a low expecation comparatively to theirs and maybe a lot of fans.

And lords only knows how deep the negativity spiral will go if they bow out of the 1st round yet again.

But those thoughts are for later. It's time right now to watch and hope they can up their game and take control of their destiny.
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:34 PM   #475
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For me, I never post negatively about the team in general and mostly support the direction of the team as well. I do enjoy discussing positives and negatives of a play, a game or. More rarely, a player (as far as negatives go).
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Old 05-09-2022, 12:20 AM   #476
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But then how do you feel when you're wrong? When you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater and clearly over reacted?

Is it a regret thing? Feel silly?

Or is it a mental hedge? If I'm right and they lose then at least I was right. If I'm wrong and they win, I'm still happy?

Honestly just curious. I'm a very positive person, in all aspects of life. I don't bog down on the negative stuff almost ever.
It’s probably just venting frustration. Nothing more than that.
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OK, back on track. I was not able to watch any game in which the Flames lost. Not the Oiler/Leaf wins. Yet when I got back and watched, the Leafs and Oilers lost big time. So we're all good now, I will watch the Flames to a win.
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