10-30-2022, 12:21 PM
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#461
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Originally Posted by Jordan!
I’m surprised that was your first trip here. I thought you lived here at some point
Glad you had a great time! It feels right having this team in a good location. Losing with Wheeler of all people scoring the OT winner is typical coyotes luck but what can you do?
Onto the vote in Nov!
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"luck" lol the team sucks and is trying to suck
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10-30-2022, 12:43 PM
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#462
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Scoring Winger
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so far my season tickets are taking a decent loss at resale value... Rangers aren't a visiting team to snuff at either I imagine
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10-30-2022, 02:06 PM
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#463
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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10-30-2022, 04:10 PM
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#464
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Originally Posted by getbak
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This isn’t ideal
Always something.
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10-30-2022, 04:11 PM
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#465
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by getbak
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Seems like an odd move based on the claims of no public funds required...though it seems more likely that those claims are just BS
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10-30-2022, 04:23 PM
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#466
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: CALGARY!
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CSEC…this is how you design an arena and entertainment district. Still can’t believe that we basically had an arena deal complete and were weeks away from breaking ground but we had never seen an interior rendering of the arena. Such a bush league proposal from a bush league ownership group. I won’t argue their commitment to building and placing a quality team on the ice, but their off ice decisions and ideas are about as amateur as you can get.
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Last edited by The Familia; 10-30-2022 at 04:25 PM.
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10-30-2022, 04:25 PM
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#467
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Seems like an odd move based on the claims of no public funds required...though it seems more likely that those claims are just BS
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This mirrors my thoughts exactly. Why have a civic vote unless there is more to what they are asking for.
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10-30-2022, 06:32 PM
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#468
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
This mirrors my thoughts exactly. Why have a civic vote unless there is more to what they are asking for.
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Yeah. This is truly an odd move.
Referendums are usually a failure so my hope meter is back to 5% probability. In the age of misinformed voters. This thing is on thin ice.
Hope the rumors are true about Meruelo having a plan B ready to go are true but there’s no denying the value of this land in Tempe as being ideal
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10-30-2022, 06:36 PM
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#469
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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I think it's appropriate that the voters will be able to vote against this boondoggle. The sheer amount of money ... hundreds of millions of dollars... that has been vaporized trying to make hockey work in Arizona is astonishing. And it's the taxpayers who have to foot that bill. Not ownership or the league.
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Last edited by White Out 403; 10-30-2022 at 06:40 PM.
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10-30-2022, 08:32 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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I think the in-market skepticism is going to be based on the Coyotes having a high-level plan, but not thoroughly explaining the financing piece of it beyond hand-waving that they have the money. The City of Tempe graders gave the Coyotes low marks on the financial side of their proposal (but still recommended going ahead with it), and that will be something people want to see detailed more thoroughly before getting on-board with it.
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10-30-2022, 08:41 PM
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#471
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
I think it's appropriate that the voters will be able to vote against this boondoggle. The sheer amount of money ... hundreds of millions of dollars... that has been vaporized trying to make hockey work in Arizona is astonishing. And it's the taxpayers who have to foot that bill. Not ownership or the league.
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Lol. You act like you are new here.
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10-30-2022, 08:43 PM
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#472
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Lol. You act like you are new here.
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10-30-2022, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Freeway
I think the in-market skepticism is going to be based on the Coyotes having a high-level plan, but not thoroughly explaining the financing piece of it beyond hand-waving that they have the money. The City of Tempe graders gave the Coyotes low marks on the financial side of their proposal (but still recommended going ahead with it), and that will be something people want to see detailed more thoroughly before getting on-board with it.
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You’re expecting the average voter to be looking for a detailed financial proposal? Since when does the Joe citizen look for that kind of detail?
If the Coyotes haven’t presented detailed support for their proposal, how irresponsible is it for elected officials to turn to a referendum where the details won’t matter.
What a cluster.
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10-30-2022, 09:33 PM
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#474
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jordan!
Yeah. This is truly an odd move.
Referendums are usually a failure so my hope meter is back to 5% probability. In the age of misinformed voters. This thing is on thin ice.
Hope the rumors are true about Meruelo having a plan B ready to go are true but there’s no denying the value of this land in Tempe as being ideal
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I agree voters are likely uninformed but from what Freeway is saying, no one is very informed on what Meruelo is presenting.
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10-30-2022, 11:00 PM
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#475
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Jaydee
so far my season tickets are taking a decent loss at resale value... Rangers aren't a visiting team to snuff at either I imagine
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The Rangers game looked really empty for a lot of the game. Not sure if it's just when I was watching, but hundreds of empty seats in many sections.
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10-30-2022, 11:02 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by jayswin
The Rangers game looked really empty for a lot of the game. Not sure if it's just when I was watching, but hundreds of empty seats in many sections.
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From my vantage point there was only one section that was noticeably bare. There were a few empty rows here and there. Was a declared sellout though.
Got a decent quote from Reaves after the game:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1586912910365716492
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10-31-2022, 10:59 AM
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#477
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Got a decent quote from Reaves after the game:
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If that's Reaves toning it down for a media quote, I can only imagine what they're saying on the plane heading out after the game.
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10-31-2022, 11:39 AM
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The question will be: Do you want a trash dump or have someone willing to pay to remediate the land and end-cap the Lake District with something great. That's the main reason it's never been developed before. $40 million that the Coyotes are paying for.
Apparently the Coyotes have offered even more concessions that make this agreement a no lose for the City which is probably why the City of Tempe may go the route of a public vote. It's so good that it's almost a sure bet that it'll pass, even better than the previously announced proposal that still garnered 60% of the populace to approve.
But also, Coyotes... so it's going to fail
Last edited by Jordan!; 10-31-2022 at 11:44 AM.
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10-31-2022, 11:58 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Interesting what Reaves said about the good ice. Maybe mentioned before, but Pierre Luc Dubois said exactly the same thing a couple nights earlier. Are they told to say something nice? Or is the ice that noticeably amazing that two players on two nights say the same thing?
Bruins play in Arizona Dec 9th. Marchand doesn't give a ####....he will say what he thinks.
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10-31-2022, 12:03 PM
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
Interesting what Reaves said about the good ice. Maybe mentioned before, but Pierre Luc Dubois said exactly the same thing a couple nights earlier. Are they told to say something nice? Or is the ice that noticeably amazing that two players on two nights say the same thing?
Bruins play in Arizona Dec 9th. Marchand doesn't give a ####....he will say what he thinks.
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Lucky for him, the Annex (Actual Home and Visiting locker rooms) should be done by then. lol
But I still expect comments
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