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Old 10-16-2016, 10:25 PM   #461
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Braun, Ventura, Gomez, Puig, Chapman, Machado and yes Harper

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Old 10-16-2016, 10:30 PM   #462
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Not sure how EE's homerun in the wildcard game could be ahead of Bautista's homerun last playoffs, when you factor everything in.

I guess if the Blue Jays come back and make the world series, you could argue that his homerun got us into a playoffs that took us further than last season, but otherwise I'd have Bautista's ahead for sure.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:31 PM   #463
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Don't ever waste your time listening or reading anything Steve Simmons says. The guy is a complete moron. Just look at all of his stories about Kessel when he was here. He is always 100% wrong. Worst sports writer ever.
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Old 10-16-2016, 11:47 PM   #464
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Any news if Liriano is available? I haven't seen an update anywhere.

Edit: Nevermind, just saw he was available for Game 2.

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Old 10-16-2016, 11:50 PM   #465
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Not sure how EE's homerun in the wildcard game could be ahead of Bautista's homerun last playoffs, when you factor everything in.

I guess if the Blue Jays come back and make the world series, you could argue that his homerun got us into a playoffs that took us further than last season, but otherwise I'd have Bautista's ahead for sure.
For some reason I spent a lot of time thinking about this. Both were huge HRs in elimination games however I give the edge to EE because his was an extra innings walk off. In the case of JB, the Rangers still had two innings to tie the game (or if he didn't hit the HR the Jays still had two innings to take the lead).

I have also debated Sprague vs Alomar as both HRs were 9th inning comebacks against top closers and were major reasons for the 92 World Series win. In this case I give the edge to Sprague since it gave the Jays the lead, while the Alomar one just tied the game.

In any case I am sure we can all agree on:

-Carter: Biggest HR in Jays history
-Sprague: Biggest pinch hit HR in Jays history
-Alomar: Biggest HR in Jays ALCS history
-JB: Biggest HR in Jays ALDS history
-EE: Biggest HR in Wild Card hisory
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For some reason I spent a lot of time thinking about this. Both were huge HRs in elimination games however I give the edge to EE because his was an extra innings walk off. In the case of JB, the Rangers still had two innings to tie the game (or if he didn't hit the HR the Jays still had two innings to take the lead).

I have also debated Sprague vs Alomar as both HRs were 9th inning comebacks against top closers and were major reasons for the 92 World Series win. In this case I give the edge to Sprague since it gave the Jays the lead, while the Alomar one just tied the game.

In any case I am sure we can all agree on:

-Carter: Biggest HR in Jays history
-Sprague: Biggest pinch hit HR in Jays history
-Alomar: Biggest HR in Jays ALCS history
-JB: Biggest HR in Jays ALDS history
-EE: Biggest HR in Wild Card hisory
-Winfield: Biggest double, arguably the biggest hit in Jays history as well in the 11th of the clincher in '92.

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Old 10-17-2016, 12:25 AM   #467
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^That might be the biggest hit in Jays history. It would have been far more difficult to win Game 7 in 92 in Atlanta than it would have been to win Game 7 in 93 in Toronto.

Also, Winfield had the greatest bunt in Jays history in the 9th inning of Game 3 when he moved Alomar to 3rd with one out.
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:13 AM   #468
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Right now the Alomar homer is top of mind - game typing homer against an 'unbeatable' closer. The Jays are facing a couple of unbeatable relievers in this series and need to break them down somehow.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:19 AM   #469
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I agree. Alomars home run is the biggest. Jays had not won anything up to that point. Lost in ALCS in 85, 89, 91 and choked the division in 87. They were about to go down 0-2, Bob Costas crapping all over them on national tv....

That homer erased everything.
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:35 AM   #470
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I agree. Alomars home run is the biggest. Jays had not won anything up to that point. Lost in ALCS in 85, 89, 91 and choked the division in 87. They were about to go down 0-2, Bob Costas crapping all over them on national tv....

That homer erased everything.


I didn't mean it was the biggest HR, just the most relevant to the Jays' current situation. You make a good point though that it was the breakthrough one after years of failure.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:19 AM   #471
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Plus Alomars homer was off of Eckersley at his peak. The guy had 51 saves that year and won the Cy Young and MVP IIRC. I think he had more than 40 saves in 4 or 5 straight seasons. He was unbeatable and Robbie beat him on the biggest stage.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:42 AM   #472
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For a fairly small amount of post-season appearances (compared to the age of the franchise) the Jays have a Remarkable amount of highly memorable and meaningful home runs.

Hard to rank them after Carter's.

The rest may hold different weight and meaning for a completely different generations of fans.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:16 PM   #473
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Jose Bautista leading off tonight.

JB
JD
EE
Tulo
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:21 PM   #474
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Fair enough with the switch up. Can't have JB doing zip in the clean up spot. I expect Martin to snap out of this funk today.

Pumped for the game tonight go jays!!
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:25 PM   #475
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Jose Bautista leading off tonight.

JB
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I know he's done it before but I just don't get JB as a lead off guy, other than he can be disciplined and draw some walks. Maybe putting at lead off helps him focus on that and get on track.
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I just saw this on ESPN, but ummm....hmmmm. Are we gonna get blacked out of tonight's game?

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An Ontario judge hearing arguments on an attempt to bar the Cleveland Indians from using their team name and "Chief Wahoo" logo during Monday's night playoff game in Toronto asked the plaintiff's lawyer how the game would be played if the name and logo didn't appear.

The legal challenge by indigenous activist Douglas Cardinal comes on the same day the team plays the Toronto Blue Jays in Game 3 of the American League Championship Series.

The long-standing logo, which appears on some team caps and jerseys, depicts a grinning, red-faced cartoon with a feather headband.

Lawyer Monique Jilesen told Ontario Superior Court Justice Tom McEwen the game could be played with spring training uniforms that don't carry the name or "Chief Wahoo" logo. Jilesen said the club was informed of this Sunday, and there is no attempt to stop the game.

"Using a racially discriminatory caricature is a violation of the Ontario human rights code," Jilesen told the judge.

At least 27 lawyers representing the Cleveland Indians, Major League Baseball and others, including the plaintiffs, attended the hearing, which was moved to a larger court room to accommodate the crowd. Michael Swinwood, one of Cardinal's lawyers, said the judge will rule before Monday night's game.
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Cardinal believes the team shouldn't be allowed to wear their regular jerseys, the logo shouldn't be broadcast and the team should be referred to as "the Cleveland team."

"It's quite obviously a derogatory, cartoonish representation of an indigenous person," Swinwood said. "The whole concept of how it demeans native people is essentially his concern."

Swinwood said the legal challenge is a high-profile opportunity to bring awareness to the racism aboriginal people face in North America.

Kent Thomson, a lawyer for Rogers, told the judge that Rogers would have to black out the game in Canada because they can't control what TBS shows during the game.

"It would punish millions and millions of Canadians, Blue Jays fans, and owners of bars and restaurants across the country," Thomson said.
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I just saw this on ESPN, but ummm....hmmmm. Are we gonna get blacked out of tonight's game?





http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ns-logo-banned
Blacking out the country from seeing the Blue Jays in an ALCS game is probably the worst way to garner support for the cause.
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It would be so ludicrous to black out the country due to some idiot's lawsuit, that I actually want to see it for the hilarity that would ensue.
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I would guess Rogers would just put up a boxscore and have the radio PBP instead. Obviously unlikely but who knows....
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Injunction denied, crisis averted.

http://www.tsn.ca/bid-to-ban-indians...enied-1.586557

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