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Old 08-25-2016, 02:59 PM   #461
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Yep, agreed on everything you and others have said about Hart. Crap Euro's, but he's core of that club, homegrown, and still a very good shot stopper.

And especially, that Pep is overrated, and he's really shaking things up by pushing Hart out.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:05 PM   #462
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And especially, that Pep is overrated, and he's really shaking things up by pushing Hart out.
see, you're wrong. Haven't you noticed that he has changed the PL already?

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There were a few cynical asides when Pep Guardiola was appointed Manchester City manager. There were even those who hoped he would fall flat on his face; those who claimed he was ‘not all that’. Would a coach who has dominated in Spain and Germany, and with the two strongest clubs in those countries, cut it in the physically intense, competitive chaos of the Premier League?

It is early days but we already have our answer. City may not win the league this season; they may not emulate the Champions League semi-final of the last campaign. He may ultimately fail. But Guardiola has made his mark. He has made a difference. There is no revolution just a raising of standards. The Spaniard has, within a few short weeks, changed the Premier League and done so for the better. He has made us – and his rivals – think and react. Everyone is on their toes and knows they have to lift their game. Be harder, faster, fitter – and smarter.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...vals-lift-the/

suuuuure. A shaky 2-1 home win over the weakest team in the league thanks to a late own goal and a win over an inferior Stoke team, but yeah, he's clearly pushed the league to a new level. Lol
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Hahaha, well good news for West Ham is that with that display they can focus on their 'title challenge' I guess!
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:42 PM   #464
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see, you're wrong. Haven't you noticed that he has changed the PL already?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...vals-lift-the/

suuuuure. A shaky 2-1 home win over the weakest team in the league thanks to a late own goal and a win over an inferior Stoke team, but yeah, he's clearly pushed the league to a new level. Lol
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:48 PM   #465
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It's obviously going to be Hull who pushes the league to new levels. 13 player squads, having managers quit right before the season, still top of the league. The revolution is coming.
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:36 PM   #466
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All hail King Pep Guardiola - the greatest manager of all time (whose team's never really show an improvement when he signs up or a decline after he leaves).
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:12 PM   #467
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it will fade, I remember the same thing with Klopp, last year before his first game the papers were all writing as if we were all witnesses to the coronation and just had to look around the football game going on behind it
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very interesting interview with Luke Shaw about his injury and rehabilitation. Also touches on the mental side of things, which is often forgotten.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ited-fit-happy
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:39 AM   #469
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Joe Hart picking up steam to Liverpool.

http://www.espnfc.us/blog/transfer-t...ames-rodriguez
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:38 PM   #470
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Even if they hadn't scored that was refreshing to watch. The United of old, relentless, pressuring, intense, creating chances.

Was nice to have that feeling again that they were going to score ... eventually. Fergie time!
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Yep, Hull played scared.

Completely parked, and hit long balls with a prayer something happened to their lone striker.

Tough to get that final touch, when 8 players are inside the 6 yard box. For a team having captured 7 pts from their first 3, that's the type of response you'd expect from a team facing United in the Fergie era.

The fear is back. The confidence too.
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Old 08-27-2016, 02:14 PM   #472
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Joe Hart picking up steam to Liverpool.

http://www.espnfc.us/blog/transfer-t...ames-rodriguez
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Total Eclipse of Joe Hart?
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Joe Hart picking up steam to Liverpool.

http://www.espnfc.us/blog/transfer-t...ames-rodriguez
I just dont see him as enough of an upgrade considering the likely fee and wages.

England's error-prone and oft-maligned starting goalkeeper or Belgium's error-prone and oft-maligned backup goalkeeper.

One is already bought and paid for, why buy another?
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Well, it's not my money and I'd take Hart over Mignolet every time.
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Well, it's not my money and I'd take Hart over Mignolet every time.
Really? I dont know, I find it to be fairly even.

I think Hart easily has better distribution from the back, I dont know whats up Pep's butt on that one, and I dont think theres any doubt that hes a fantastic shot-stopper, I think he and Mignolet are a saw-off on that score, but when Hart screws up he goes huge.

I just dont think one is significantly better than the other overall.
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I'd take Hart over Mignolet for sure, but after buying Karius, I don't see any sense in Liverpool getting Hart.
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I'd take Hart over Mignolet for sure, but after buying Karius, I don't see any sense in Liverpool getting Hart.
Especially when theres no need to wear sunglasses at night.
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Spurs were just plain bad today. That game should've been out of hand by the half and while there were a couple bright lights (Vorm, Rose were good) some guys just didn't show up. I feel like Dele and Eriksen are way off this season, or maybe teams are keyed on them and just shutting them down. Regardless, it wasn't an inspiring performance today.
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Old 08-27-2016, 07:58 PM   #479
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I'll also mention I've been critical of Rooney but that class assist, and the resulting goal was on him. Great play
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