Justin Trudeau running for Liberal leadership

[SebC]

Is the ad even on TV, or is it just a viral video?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Pretty damn smart move right here

Justin Trudeau is riding to the rescue of Conservative backbenchers who feel they’re being muzzled by stifling party discipline imposed by Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

The newly minted Liberal leader intends to introduce a motion that would strip party whips of their power to decide which MPs are allowed to make members’ statements in the House of Commons.

Trudeau’s motion will put Harper’s legendary iron control over his caucus to the test, providing an outlet for restless Tory backbenchers to defy their leader.

Indeed, Harper may be trying to buy himself some time to strike a truce with his backbench rebels before letting Trudeau’s motion come to a vote.

The motion was to have been debated and put to a vote on Monday, a Liberal opposition day. But an hour after Trudeau gave notice Friday of his motion, Government House leader Peter Van Loan announced a sudden change in next week’s Commons agenda, bumping the Liberal day to Wednesday.

The Tory caucus meets Wednesday morning and Van Loan’s move gives Harper another chance to try to quell the uprising before the debate.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle11418337/

[Flamenspiel]

Well once we are with the Globe and Mail, here is another one about Le Petit PET:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/comme...ticle11402107/

"It was a poorly timed and misinformed statement that suggests Mr. Trudeau has a learning curve ahead of him."

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Well once we are with the Globe and Mail, here is another one about Le Petit PET:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/comme...ticle11402107/

"It was a poorly timed and misinformed statement that suggests Mr. Trudeau has a learning curve ahead of him."

Look at that. Critical thinking down the toilet.
Surprise surprise from the G&M

[Resolute 14]

Lemme guess, the only "critical thinking" is that which you agree with?

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Lemme guess, the only "critical thinking" is that which you agree with?

Critical thinking may have been the wrong word, more like intellectually dishonest (Even if the journalist is wrong for looking at terrorism as an externalized force onto society, which is stupidly close minded). The journalist is presenting this as some public statement that Trudeau made, which isn't true. This was an answer given during an interview by Peter Mansbridge. The first thing Trudeau said (which surprise, isn't included), was give condolences and condemn the act. God forbid someone looks proactively at a situation like this, and not spew a "tough on crime" stance.

A very poorly written article which misconstrued reality.

[Jacks]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04...-backbenchers/
Justin Trudeau riding to the rescue of rebellious Conservative backbenchers

Justin Trudeau is riding to the rescue of Conservative backbenchers who feel they’re being muzzled by stifling party discipline imposed by Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

The newly minted Liberal leader intends to introduce a motion that would strip party whips of their power to decide which MPs are allowed to make members’ statements in the House of Commons.

Trudeau fighting for a reopening of the abortion debate?

He has said a Liberal government would allow its backbenchers to vote as they see fit on all bills and motions, other than those that involve a key element of the party’s election platform, budget or the charter of rights.

Maybe someone can explain to the crown prince that not re-opening the abortion debate was a "key element" of the Conservative election platform.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Jacks

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04...-backbenchers/
Justin Trudeau riding to the rescue of rebellious Conservative backbenchers
Trudeau fighting for a reopening of the abortion debate?

Maybe someone can explain to the crown prince that not re-opening the abortion debate was a "key element" of the Conservative election platform.

He's fighting to get the Cons to implode on themselves. Not sure how that makes him support the abortion debate.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Jacks

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04...-backbenchers/
Justin Trudeau riding to the rescue of rebellious Conservative backbenchers
Trudeau fighting for a reopening of the abortion debate?

Maybe someone can explain to the crown prince that not re-opening the abortion debate was a "key element" of the Conservative election platform.

He just wants these poor guys to be able to fully express themselves. I thought you might actually be in favour of that?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jacks

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04...-backbenchers/
Justin Trudeau riding to the rescue of rebellious Conservative backbenchers
Trudeau fighting for a reopening of the abortion debate?

Maybe someone can explain to the crown prince that not re-opening the abortion debate was a "key element" of the Conservative election platform.

If a people you're running against have views that will alienate them from the majority of the voting public, creating a climate where they can do your dirty work for you seems at worst politically astute.

[mustache ride]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

If a people you're running against have views that will alienate them from the majority of the voting public, creating a climate where they can do your dirty work for you seems at worst politically astute.

That is true but... This is a policy that can come back just as easily to haunt the Liberals or any other party in power. Or maybe not so much the liberals since they don't have any backbenchers to have crazy opinions.

If it gets him the win then i guess it will be worth it. But the anti abortion crowd isn't just limited to one side of the political spectrum. They better make absolutely sure they know the opinions coming from their own party before they start playing in the big boy sandbox.

[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by SebC

Is the ad even on TV, or is it just a viral video?

It's on TV now, I've seen a couple of times here in Ottawa.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Umm...what?

Conservative party spokesman Fred DeLorey said Liberal candidate Yvonne Jones win over former cabinet minister and incumbent Peter Penashue was not a surprise, given that Liberals have won the riding in all but two elections since the province joined Confederation in 1949.

“As we know, majority governments do not usually win byelections,” he said in an email.

In fact, out of 21 byelections since Prime Minister Stephen Harper took office in 2006, the Conservatives have never before lost a Tory-held riding. They’ve even picked up five opposition-held seats.

Still, DeLorey tried to spin the Labrador result as a loss for Trudeau.

“When this byelection was called, the Liberals had a 43-point lead in the polls. Since electing Justin Trudeau as leader and having him personally campaign there, they have dropped 20 points in Labrador,” DeLorey argued.

“Labradorians were able to see first-hand how Justin Trudeau is in over his head.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05...trudeaus-loss/

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Umm...what?



http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05...trudeaus-loss/

Hey, comes from the same party with the guy that says the root cause of terrorism is terrorists.

[troutman]

Trudeau’s Liberals hit historic highs as senate scandal has ‘drastic effect’ on Tories: poll


http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05...n-tories-poll/

Justin Trudeau’s Liberals are en route to winning a massive majority in the next election.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by troutman

Trudeau’s Liberals hit historic highs as senate scandal has ‘drastic effect’ on Tories: poll


http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05...n-tories-poll/

Justin Trudeau’s Liberals are en route to winning a massive majority in the next election.

That damn Liberal media. Wait...what?

[CaptainCrunch]

Of course the scandal is going to create a massive bounce, but by now we should all learn that polls mean nothing, even on election night.

And this bounce has less to do with Trudeau and more to do with the Conservatives. You also have Mulcair driving the NDP into the turf both personally and professionally. The secret forTrudeau right now is to shut up and do nothing and let the press do the work for him.


Its their dish soap,let them soak in it.

[SebC]

I like how a $90,000 dollar scandal topples a government, as opposed to how they manage billions of dollars. Actually no I don't, stupid democracy.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Further to the poll posted by troutman...

One half of the randomly selected Canadian adults who took part in a Forum Research poll earlier this month said they had seen the television ad in which Mr. Trudeau is filmed while taking off his shirt at a fundraiser and a voiceover says “he’s in over his head.”

A little more than a third said they had seen another ad that the Liberals put out in response in which Mr. Trudeau sits on a schoolroom desk and says “together we will build a better country.”

Of those who had seen the ad, half said it will make them more likely to vote Liberal. That compares with the 19 per cent who said it makes them more likely to vote Conservative.

Even among Conservative supporters, one in 10 who had seen the ad said it makes them more likely to vote Liberal.

On the other hand, half of respondents who had seen the pro-Trudeau ad said it made them more likely to vote Liberal while 20 per cent said it will prompt them to vote Conservative and 15 per cent said it will push them towards the NDP.

Respondents were not given the option to say their views were unchanged.

The interactive voice response telephone survey of 1,779 Canadians was conducted on May 21 and 22, as the scandal in the Senate was unfolding. It is expected to accurately reflect the views of the population at large within 2 percentage points 19 times in 20.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle12097984/

[rubecube]

These polls are pretty useless. Are we actually making these conclusions two years before an election?