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Old 07-14-2023, 08:15 AM   #4701
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If I’m the Oilers I trade Draisaitl to the Kings right now for Kopitar straight up. Gives them 1.5M more after year one, a better 200 foot player, and IMO a better chance at a cup.
I agree it would probably make the Oilers chances of winning a cup far greater but I don't think Kopitar would be down for that as I think he probably plans on retiring a King.
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It's not my theory. It's the Oilers theory as if Stauffer says the Oilers believe the Kings will be all over him it then it's legit as he gets his information directly from the Oilers.

From the Oilers point of view they know full well it will be impossible to keep both and McDavid has to be their top priority so I don't see them going crazy with offers to keep Draisaitl knowing that the more they give him, the less they can offer McDavid. I think there's a chance McDavid stays in Edmonton. It may be a small chance but at the end of the day money talks and McDavid doesn't strike me as being a savvy guy.
If Leon leaves I don't see Edmonton keeping McDavid unless they trade Leon and do well in the deal. But they will have to make that call next summer and they can't make a deal where the value in the deal in mainly picks and prospects.
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Old 07-14-2023, 08:16 AM   #4703
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If I’m the Oilers I trade Draisaitl to the Kings right now for Kopitar straight up. Gives them 1.5M more after year one, a better 200 foot player, and IMO a better chance at a cup.
Call me crazy, but I think they can get back a little more than a 35 year old Kopitar for him.
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If I’m the Oilers I trade Draisaitl to the Kings right now for Kopitar straight up. Gives them 1.5M more after year one, a better 200 foot player, and IMO a better chance at a cup.
Ignoring the fact that Kopitar would refuse such a trade, just a terrible trade for the Oilers.

If they trade Drasaitl, they should get premium picks and prospects and cap space which they can utilize to improve their team greatly.
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If Leon leaves I don't see Edmonton keeping McDavid unless they trade Leon and do well in the deal. But they will have to make that call next summer and they can't make a deal where the value in the deal in mainly picks and prospects.
This is something they realistically should be able to do. We are talking about a Hart trophy winner here and perennial scoring leader runner up. It's not exactly the same as trying to find a great return for Hanafin or Lindholm.
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Teams like Chicago and Anaheim would be able to offer a package of attractive prospects, along with a very high pick next year. And could take on his salary without having to dump some back.

And adding Draisaitl instantly raises them up into the playoff conversation (a year from now).
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Old 07-14-2023, 08:32 AM   #4707
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This is something they realistically should be able to do. We are talking about a Hart trophy winner here and perennial scoring leader runner up. It's not exactly the same as trying to find a great return for Hanafin or Lindholm.
Ya if the Oilers play it smart Draisaitl and McDavid, if they trade them, should set them up to be competitive for the next 10 years after the trade. They should be good well into the 2030’s.
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If I’m the Oilers I trade Draisaitl to the Kings right now for Kopitar straight up. Gives them 1.5M more after year one, a better 200 foot player, and IMO a better chance at a cup.
Is LA offering 2 1sts to go along with that? Or a top player like Fiala? Edmonton would be dumb to do that.

If they’re selling Draisaitl, it’s likely when they’ve got so much $’s tied to bonuses, buyouts (Campbell and Nurse likely haha), and not enough $’s to ice a good team. They’d be better off selling him at the deadline at 50% in 2025.
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Old 07-14-2023, 09:12 AM   #4709
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I would absolutely love if the Oilers traded Draisaitl for an older cetner instead of defense and some great young prospects
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Step 1: Trade Draisaitl
Step 2: ????
Step 3: It's not a question of when but how many
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:00 AM   #4712
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If I’m the Oilers I trade Draisaitl to the Kings right now for Kopitar straight up. Gives them 1.5M more after year one, a better 200 foot player, and IMO a better chance at a cup.
Honestly - as much as I hate the Oilers.. this would be an atrocious move for Edmonton.

Would you have wanted to trade Tkachuk for Brad Marchand last year?
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:05 AM   #4713
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This is something they realistically should be able to do. We are talking about a Hart trophy winner here and perennial scoring leader runner up. It's not exactly the same as trying to find a great return for Hanafin or Lindholm.
"The trade is one for one"
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:21 AM   #4714
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:23 AM   #4715
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That’s an ouch to Washington. Yikes.
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:27 AM   #4717
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“I’d still like to make a trade,” MacLellan said. “We were aggressive at the draft with our offers, but nothing ever materialized. I feel we have some pretty good offers out there, and the guys [we’re pursuing] haven’t moved yet. I don’t know if they move them now or when they move them. Maybe at the deadline? I’m not sure what happens. Some guys need to be signed. So we’ll stay involved in all of that stuff.”
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/mi...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

sounds like he could be talking about some Flames players
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:38 AM   #4718
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Kinda wish we could trade Kadri for Kuznetzov.

Won't happen because I don't think the Flames would do it, but I do think it would be best for the franchise at the end of the day.
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Old 07-14-2023, 10:40 AM   #4719
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Hanifin / Backlund for Kuznetsov, start from there
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I wouldn’t trade much for Kuz at this point. He’s 31, expensive, and his GAF meter is low. Plus, hasn’t he been suspended for off-ice incidents in the past?
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