11-11-2018, 01:50 PM
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#4701
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Philly also has to sign Kopeckny, Simmonds and Proverov. Do they have room?
Florida has Luongo under contract for 3 more, Reimer under contract for 2 more. Would be a pretty big change to move on from Luongo.
New Jersey has 2 studs in net right now. They are more likely to be a seller, not a buyer.
NYI: Wildcard. They have Nelson, Eberle, Lee and Lehner all UFA at the end of the season. My bet is that they stick with whomever takes the #1 job in net this year and run with them long term - Greiss or Lehner. However they have tonnes of cap room and an opportunity to really change the makeup of the team at the trade deadline.
Vancouver - yep. Good call. They will be buyers in the goalie market.
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I think Florida will be looking for a replacement after this year.
Luongo has been chronically injured for the past three years and is 40 years old. His actual salary also drops to something like 1 million next year. It really makes no sense for him to keep going anymore.
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11-11-2018, 05:48 PM
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#4703
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Saqe
I think Florida will be looking for a replacement after this year.
Luongo has been chronically injured for the past three years and is 40 years old. His actual salary also drops to something like 1 million next year. It really makes no sense for him to keep going anymore.
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Would not surprise me in the least to see Luongo retire at the end of the year and Bobrovsky sign with the Panthers. Luongo's contract was set up for this to be the case.
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11-11-2018, 05:50 PM
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#4704
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Would not surprise me in the least to see Luongo retire at the end of the year and Bobrovsky sign with the Panthers. Luongo's contract was set up for this to be the case.
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What are the cap recapture penalties to Florida and Vancouver if he does?
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11-11-2018, 05:53 PM
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#4705
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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I hope Luongo plays two more seasons after this and retires in 2021. That will maximize the cap-recapture penalty against Vancouver at the same time they'll have to give Petterrssonn his second contract.
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11-11-2018, 05:55 PM
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#4706
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dying4acup
What are the cap recapture penalties to Florida and Vancouver if he does?
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11-11-2018, 05:58 PM
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#4707
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Ooooo that's gonna really put the hurt on Vancouver in 2020. A final, grand one finger salute to the canucks as he rides off into the sunset.
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11-11-2018, 05:58 PM
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#4708
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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There's almost no reason to or way Luongo retires early, but man would it be hilarious for the Canucks to suddenly get hit with $4.2mil/2yrs or $8.5ml/1yr.
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11-11-2018, 06:01 PM
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#4709
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
There's almost no reason to or way Luongo retires early, but man would it be hilarious for the Canucks to suddenly get hit with $4.2mil/2yrs or $8.5ml/1yr.
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Exactly. He will just go on LTIR
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11-11-2018, 06:01 PM
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#4710
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
There's almost no reason to or way Luongo retires early, but man would it be hilarious for the Canucks to suddenly get hit with $4.2mil/2yrs or $8.5ml/1yr.
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He seems to be breaking down physically ove the last season and a bit. He may not have a choice but to retire. Or ride it out on IR. which I cannot see.
And what does he care how it affects the Canucks.
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11-11-2018, 06:04 PM
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#4711
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by dammage79
He seems to be breaking down physically ove the last season and a bit. He may not have a choice but to retire. Or ride it out on IR. which I cannot see.
And what does he care how it affects the Canucks.
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How do you not see a player riding out his contract on IR when it's almost unanimously the route old, broken players take if they're able to? 
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11-11-2018, 06:05 PM
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#4712
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
There's almost no reason to or way Luongo retires early, but man would it be hilarious for the Canucks to suddenly get hit with $4.2mil/2yrs or $8.5ml/1yr.
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Kiprusof retired before his contract was over if I'm not mistaken.
No one can stop Luongo from retirement, if that what he wants to do.
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11-11-2018, 06:36 PM
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#4713
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Kiprusof retired before his contract was over if I'm not mistaken.
No one can stop Luongo from retirement, if that what he wants to do.
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Kiprusoff didn't have the IR option though.
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11-11-2018, 08:10 PM
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#4714
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Uncle Chester
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Nm
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11-11-2018, 08:49 PM
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#4715
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
That's pretty bad for Calgary. first of all, we can't keep giving away 1st round picks. Second Bob's a UFA at the end of the season so this does nothing to solve the goaltending problems beyond this year.
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Pretty easy work around to that tho. something like if he re-signs or the flames make it to the SC final it's 2019 first, if he doesn't it's a 2019 3rd or something like that.
CLB, at worst gets a decent pick and prospect, and at best gets a great return on a goalie who was leaving them anyways.
CGY can then go forward with contract talks and if the ask is too high and they'd rather go after Varlamov or Talbot in the offseason they can rest easy knowing the price they paid was worth a shot this year without giving up too much in terms of future assets.
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11-11-2018, 10:34 PM
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#4716
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Lifetime Suspension
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Bennett + Hamonic + 1st for Nylander + 2nd
Derek Ryan + James Neal for Bobby Ryan
Gaudreau-Monahan-Nylander
Tkachuk-Lindholm-Ryan
Dube-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway-Jankowski-Czarnik
Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Andersson
Valimaki-Stone
Rittich
Smith
Last edited by Phagoof; 11-11-2018 at 10:36 PM.
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11-11-2018, 10:50 PM
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#4717
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion Phagoof
Bennett + Hamonic + 1st for Nylander + 2nd
Derek Ryan + James Neal for Bobby Ryan
Gaudreau-Monahan-Nylander
Tkachuk-Lindholm-Ryan
Dube-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway-Jankowski-Czarnik
Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Andersson
Valimaki-Stone
Rittich
Smith
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Giving up Hamonic is not going to happen. You don't trade a top 4 dman without getting another one in return. Besides Stone is gone when his contract is up.
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11-12-2018, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dion Phagoof
Bennett + Hamonic + 1st for Nylander + 2nd
Derek Ryan + James Neal for Bobby Ryan
Gaudreau-Monahan-Nylander
Tkachuk-Lindholm-Ryan
Dube-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway-Jankowski-Czarnik
Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Andersson
Valimaki-Stone
Rittich
Smith
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Brutal. What are you thinking?
We need Hamonic, and both Ryan and Neal have outscored Ryan the last two seasons. You’re also trading out four players, getting back two, and still adding 1 million in salary.
Those proposals are real bad.
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11-12-2018, 08:49 AM
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#4719
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Hamonic is our best rhd and a clear stabilizing presence on the backend. He is necessary to our success.
Still thinking about trying to target a combo of Campbell and Carter from LA... I wonder if Jankowski + 1st 2019 and some cap dump options could work.
Or after last night, i wonder if the oil would trade us Talbot for smith
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11-12-2018, 09:01 AM
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#4720
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Hamonic is our best rhd and a clear stabilizing presence on the backend. He is necessary to our success.
Still thinking about trying to target a combo of Campbell and Carter from LA... I wonder if Jankowski + 1st 2019 and some cap dump options could work.
Or after last night, i wonder if the oil would trade us Talbot for smith
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No and no
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