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Old 11-05-2014, 08:07 PM   #4701
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Starseed, is it possible this power you received gave a false read?
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:07 PM   #4702
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I am pretty sure that the 'forces of light' was never mentioned before by anyone in this thread. Also, the Timbo bucket thing still stumped me.

Sorry guys. My thinking was that however HG flipped, I could know who the mafia duo was, and that the mafia would have had to take out one of us to prevent us from having enough votes for a lynch, thus confirming we are town.
What the heck?

You said he was confirmed darkness. What?
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:09 PM   #4703
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Puxlut - Do you have any idea why the investigations failed? Do you have some sort of special mason investigation block between you and Starseed?
I'm sorry, I don't know why they failed. I was not told of a block. I can ask Mazrim...
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:09 PM   #4704
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This is the weirdest damn mafia game ever
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:10 PM   #4705
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The world as we know it can't seem to exist without both. It's a delicate balance that can be disrupted at times. Time and time again the forces of the Light
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Starseed lied about his investigation? He knew that Timbo could confirm my power so has to come up with another theory that worked without a third member.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:11 PM   #4706
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What the heck?

You said he was confirmed darkness. What?
I was given a negative utility power, but thought I could turn it into a positive thing. Hubrus. Now I know why you need to stick to the rule of never lying.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:13 PM   #4707
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I was given a negative utility power, but thought I could turn it into a positive thing. Hubrus. Now I know why you need to stick to the rule of never lying.
Oh come on.

You were going to lose the game because hockeyguy15 copied my very confirmed power at the insistence of other townies?
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:16 PM   #4708
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Well Drury18 never hammered at multiple chances despite it turning into a HG15/Oling vs Puxlut/Starseed thing. He's confirmed townie now.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:16 PM   #4709
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I did mention using it, it was the Wood investigation. I think it is in my initial reveal iirc. We have no mason block of any type.
Nope, your initial reveal only said you had a power.

I think I found where you said it and why I missed it. You did it in Twilight Day 3. Acutally Pux did it as MOT#2 provided all the info.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=2575
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:27 PM   #4710
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It's funny that it turned into a "us vs them" back and forth. When we (SS &I) voted for them, they immediately voted for Starseed. Everyone else was asking questions and trying to get more info. Oling just jumped in quick as that, to try and save HG. It was odd how quickly that escalated.

I can't say anything about what Starseed did. He came up with the plan and when he pm'd the reasoning to me AFTER he posted, I was pissed, but his reasoning made sense to me.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:28 PM   #4711
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Starseed can you explain what actually happened here?

What power you got? And how you reached whatever pairings that you did. I don't quite understand.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:29 PM   #4712
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It's funny that it turned into a "us vs them" back and forth. When we (SS &I) voted for them, they immediately voted for Starseed. Everyone else was asking questions and trying to get more info. Oling just jumped in quick as that, to try and save HG. It was odd how quickly that escalated.

I can't say anything about what Starseed did. He came up with the plan and when he pm'd the reasoning to me AFTER he posted, I was pissed, but his reasoning made sense to me.
He lied about me saying that Hockeyguy15 had to confirm my power, my power was already confirmed. Why wouldn't I vote for him?

I unvoted until he tried to pretend my power wasn't real.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:30 PM   #4713
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I will make a post-mortem on that fiasco tomorrow. I feel pretty embarrassed right now. Especially since 'forces of the light' is in the first freaking post.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:41 PM   #4714
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I'd rather hear the reasoning now Starseed before you have the chance to make up any more stories.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:42 PM   #4715
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I mean you now have a rather recent history of lying and doing so after a period of time. I'm sure you can understand why I don't really trust you with time at this point.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:43 PM   #4716
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Alright, stand by.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:47 PM   #4717
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Timbo, can you confirm to town that you got my Drury18 investigation again.

There's 0 chance that me, you and hockeyguy15 conspired to make it sound like I am the investigator. I am the investigator, it's been proven multiple times.
Sorry I was at the pub and tried to reply several times and my phone locked up.
I confirm Oling investigated Drufry
I can also confirm I bucketed starseed last night and oling identified this.

I cannot confirm his alignment.
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Sorry I was at the pub and tried to reply several times and my phone locked up.
I confirm Oling investigated Drury
I can also confirm I bucketed starseed last night and oling identified this.

I cannot confirm his alignment.
Flying fingers of bud light. Doh!
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:57 PM   #4719
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I got the invite from the eternals yesterday. I immediately thought of the plan of leveraging Pika's proof that the powers work into forcing a flip of our suspect rather than one of us.

There was no 24-hour requirement, but I actually did have an exam, and was behind on assignments, so I went with it. My plan was to figure out a target, then have us lynch them. Pux and I have the best chance out of all the townies in the game. You see 5/6 unknowns, I see 4 unknowns after putting Drury in the likely town category. I just have to figure out which duo it is.

I still had an inkling that there could be 3 mafia, and that they are HG/Oling/Timbo. I first thought of taking out Timbo as he is in the most likely scenarios. Either those three, or him and Dissent. Then I thought Dissent, as it would blow my original theory, and he seemed like the most obvious mafia candidate. (I laid it out in prior posts). I figure the squiggs links could be taken out, and the theories still stand. Then at the almost last minute, I thought about HG15, and went through the scenarios. I thought if he flipped town, it's 4-2 going into the night. The mafia would be forced to take out one of us because of our vote, which would prove that it was a failed townie plan, rather than a mafia plan. At that point we would know who the mafia duo was. If HG was town, it would be Dissent/Timbo. If he were mafia, it would be him and Oling.

Every time I looked at my numbers from my spreadsheet, I came up with nothing. No magic ratios or outliers. GGG was the only outlier I came up with the whole time I have used that spreadsheet. (he was very good at not picking the proven townies at that point in the game)

So I figured that since one of us were going down, and we would lose a day, I may as well try to get one of our candidates before that happened and hope I was right. I did not discuss a whole lot with Pux. I told her and Mazrim that my target would be Timbo (or dissent) before it ended up being HG. I was just checking with Mazrim to see if I was going to break any rules. He said no metagaming or posting fake day actions, but said that he could not stop me from lying about a PM he sent me.

Thats the long and short of it.
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Old 11-05-2014, 09:04 PM   #4720
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So what was the power from Eternals? Still confused.

And why do you think they would night-kill you out after killing a townie?

If HG15 show town, they want to keep you because no one would vote with you extra vote or not.

It would be Me, Diss, Drury (probably dead as most confirmed town), and Timbo voting for you with 1 of us dead. With Diss' power you possibly die or it's a tie and mafia win.

And if you put your extra vote on the townie, the mafia jump on that anyways.

Bad planning, especially as I don't see the HG15/Oling or Timbo/Diss mafia pairings.
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