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Old 03-15-2016, 02:00 PM   #4681
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Odds I saw today were:

Clinton 1/2
Trump 3/1
What are Sander's and Cruz's?
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:09 PM   #4682
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Trump is in their heads big time, Cruz is now in Ohio where he has zero chance to win and is basically there campaigning for Kasich. amazing!
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:16 PM   #4683
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what a load of bull####. All the anger and bitterness and race baiting and dog whistles were fine when it was helping the previous wave of Republicans, including Rubio, steamroll congress, shut down the government and basically taking pride in doing zero to work with Obama.

Now? Now that it's hurting them it's all un-american and dangerous.

#### right off Rubio, and all you Tea Party, evangelical shills who planted the seeds for this mess.

Reap the crops of the seeds you sowed. I hope you choke on them.
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:21 PM   #4684
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http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/...on-2016/winner


Hillary is certainly the favorite and Bernie is a long shot at best

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Old 03-15-2016, 02:33 PM   #4685
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What are Sander's and Cruz's?
12/1 and 25/1 - it varies:

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/...on-2016/winner
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:50 PM   #4686
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Looks to me like Rubio just started his 2020 run to be the Republican nominee. That sounded like the kind of reasonable Republican that used to exist pre-2001.

Is that the real Rubio? Does anyone know?
Yeah but today none of the GOP candidates are reasonable, some are just less fanatical. They all believe in pro life and Reaganomics.
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Old 03-15-2016, 03:02 PM   #4687
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Yeah but today none of the GOP candidates are reasonable, some are just less fanatical. They all believe in pro life and Reaganomics.
Pro-life is a reasonable position. I may disagree with it, but I can see a logical reason why someone would feel that way. Same with Reaganomics. It's wrong by most opinions now, but that's some merit to the discussion. The populist overt racism is not reasonable and the GOP has been flirting with it fast too long. I think we finally see an irreversible schism between the racist dogma and contemporary conservatism. Finally I hope
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Old 03-15-2016, 03:15 PM   #4688
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Pro-life is a reasonable position. I may disagree with it, but I can see a logical reason why someone would feel that way. Same with Reaganomics. It's wrong by most opinions now, but that's some merit to the discussion. The populist overt racism is not reasonable and the GOP has been flirting with it fast too long. I think we finally see an irreversible schism between the racist dogma and contemporary conservatism. Finally I hope
Maybe reasonable until it's taken to the my way or the highway position that the GOP uses. Such inflexibility leads to more extremisms.
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Old 03-15-2016, 03:26 PM   #4689
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Maybe reasonable until it's taken to the my way or the highway position that the GOP uses. Such inflexibility leads to more extremisms.
That's my point though. It's not the conservative positions that are the problem, it's the politics. A healthy conservative position gives a ying to the progressive yang. The current political climate denies the existence of either
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Old 03-15-2016, 03:40 PM   #4690
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Pro-life is a reasonable position. I may disagree with it, but I can see a logical reason why someone would feel that way. Same with Reaganomics. It's wrong by most opinions now, but that's some merit to the discussion. The populist overt racism is not reasonable and the GOP has been flirting with it fast too long. I think we finally see an irreversible schism between the racist dogma and contemporary conservatism. Finally I hope
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Looks to me like Rubio just started his 2020 run to be the Republican nominee. That sounded like the kind of reasonable Republican that used to exist pre-2001.

Is that the real Rubio? Does anyone know?
I think the concensus is that Rubio is effectively toast at a federal or gubernatorial level. No way he runs in 2020 or for governorship if he doesn't pull off a miracle in Florida. This is as close to a home court advantage as you could have had, and he's blown it.

If Kasich holds Ohio he is likely to becomes the sole "establishment" candidate and who people would likely coalesce behind at a contested convention (assuming Cruz doesn't take on that role, given his hatred levels).
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:35 PM   #4692
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Trump absolutely massacring Rubio in Florida. Exit polls have Kasich holding Ohio as expected.

I'd expect a Rubio announcement within 24 hours if not tonight.
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:40 PM   #4693
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Looks like a very good day for Hillary. Not a huge surprise, but maybe an even better day for her than expected based on the polls.
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:46 PM   #4694
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Bernie will continue on; but the race is over. Bernie is going to need 70% of remaining delegates based on the thrashing in Florida that's going on.

Probably good he stays in, as every day he challenges Hillary, the every-so-slightly she moves to the left. Which is great for USA
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Man, what a tumble Rubio has taken. Game over.
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Exit poll in Ohio says Bernie only won the white vote 51-49. That's obviously not a very good omen. I would also think we get Rubio's drop out speech tonight, gives him a primetime run to rip on Trump.
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:58 PM   #4697
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I would also think we get Rubio's drop out speech tonight, gives him a primetime run to rip on Trump.
God - could you imagine if Trump waits on his speech until Rubio starts just to usurp his air time and take away any opportunity to slam Trump.
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Clearly I was wrong about who Trump benefits.

Is John Kasich going to be the republican candidate for President? Has he been the one waiting in the wings this whole time?

He keeps getting money from God Knows Where, he's super boring but inoffensive, and he could carry Ohio which means carrying the election.

I should've seen this coming.
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Rubio es muerto.
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:04 PM   #4700
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Bernie will continue on; but the race is over. Bernie is going to need 70% of remaining delegates based on the thrashing in Florida that's going on.

Probably good he stays in, as every day he challenges Hillary, the every-so-slightly she moves to the left. Which is great for USA
It seems irrelevant for the USA to me. Moving left in her election promises or rhetoric doesn't mean anything about what she'll do if she gets into office.
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