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Old 06-06-2024, 10:40 AM   #4641
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I suspect if Markstrom leaves, we'll be in the market for a 1B or 2A?
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Old 06-06-2024, 10:44 AM   #4642
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I suspect if Markstrom leaves, we'll be in the market for a 1B or 2A?
Unless we also trade Vladar because someone comes asking I'd assume we're just going with a Wolf 60% / Vladar 40% kind of approach for next year.
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Old 06-06-2024, 10:45 AM   #4643
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I wouldn’t mind seeing what an uninjured Vladar can do….
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Unless we also trade Vladar because someone comes asking I'd assume we're just going with a Wolf 60% / Vladar 40% kind of approach for next year.
I think the starts would be flipped. Ride Vladar into the ground and shelter Wolf
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I wouldn’t mind seeing what an uninjured Vladar can do….
Same here.

I think he can help us get a top 5 pick next season.
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Unless we also trade Vladar because someone comes asking I'd assume we're just going with a Wolf 60% / Vladar 40% kind of approach for next year.
I forgot about him. Seems like a Vladar/Wolf combo would be a good one to ride for next season (or at least until there is a problem).

Took a peak at the UFA goalies coming up and there's a couple options there that could also be reliable for a 50% split with Wolf if Vladar isn't around (for any reason).
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Entirely possible if a deal with NJD is struck that they send Allen back. Can't see them going with Markstrom/Allen with Smid in the mix but thats just me.
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I just keep coming back to good either way.

There was a worry that Markstrom was an albatross contract.

Now it seems there is a dispute between 10th overall (retention/other pieces), and the 2025 1st round pick.

We've come a long way!

Also appears that those that thought the deadline was Conroy's only chance may also have been in error.
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I would do Markstrom + Dallas 2nd for 10th overall and a 3rd

Even retain a little bit 25%?
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I just keep coming back to good either way.

There was a worry that Markstrom was an albatross contract.

Now it seems there is a dispute between 10th overall (retention/other pieces), and the 2025 1st round pick.

We've come a long way!

Also appears that those that thought the deadline was Conroy's only chance may also have been in error.
But the gnashing of the teeth and the pulling of the hair by some people we saw never gets old!
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Old 06-06-2024, 11:02 AM   #4651
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Unless we also trade Vladar because someone comes asking I'd assume we're just going with a Wolf 60% / Vladar 40% kind of approach for next year.
Probably the goal. I imagine it shakes out with reversed percentages, but that’s just my opinion.
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Old 06-06-2024, 11:04 AM   #4652
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Also appears that those that thought the deadline was Conroy's only chance may also have been in error.
Absolutely shocking…….
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I just keep coming back to good either way.

There was a worry that Markstrom was an albatross contract.

Now it seems there is a dispute between 10th overall (retention/other pieces), and the 2025 1st round pick.

We've come a long way!

Also appears that those that thought the deadline was Conroy's only chance may also have been in error.
I cannot imagine a scenario where Keefe is looking at goaltending that is either worse or the same as what he had in Toronto over the last 5 years and telling Fitzgerald “we are good in that position”. It would be wild though if they rolled with their current goaltending
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Probably the goal. I imagine it shakes out with reversed percentages, but that’s just my opinion.
Yep, I originally had 50/50. My guess is it'll be close to that other than if someone gets on a streak, which I thought was more likely to happen with Wolf than Vladar so he might just end up with more games naturally.

Though that also assumes we're scoring enough to string together some wins... TBD on that with what they do with the roster this summer. Might not matter who's in net.
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New Jersey is an interesting mix in their front office.

You have Brodeur who listed Markstrom in his top 4 goalies in the league.

You now have Keefe that has lived with a goaltending carousel in Toronto and likely wants to be more solidified than Jake Allen.

You have Fitzgerald that seems to want to improve goaltending.

And then you have Tyler Dellow who probably wants no part of moving any assets for a goalie.

Will be interesting to see where it all lands.
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New Jersey is an interesting mix in their front office.

You have Brodeur who listed Markstrom in his top 4 goalies in the league.

You now have Keefe that has lived with a goaltending carousel in Toronto and likely wants to be more solidified than Jake Allen.

You have Fitzgerald that seems to want to improve goaltending.

And then you have Tyler Dellow who probably wants no part of moving any assets for a goalie.

Will be interesting to see where it all lands.

Only 3 out of 4 of those names know anything about winning hockey games though. Hopefully they win the day.
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Markstrom+28+26 3rd for 10+Schmid+Clarke?
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Old 06-06-2024, 11:37 AM   #4658
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I think Markstrom is as good as gone to NJ. I just don't know what it'll fetch, but sure hope 10OA is part of what's coming back. We will have to add.
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Markstrom+28+26 3rd for 10+Schmid+Clarke?
Feels like an underwhelming return other than #10. But if that's with nothing retained on Markstrom, then maybe?

I know very little of Clarke other than a quick google of his stats though too.
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I think Markstrom is as good as gone to NJ. I just don't know what it'll fetch, but sure hope 10OA is part of what's coming back. We will have to add.
Who has to add likely depends whether the Flames retain or not I think.
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