Minneapolis PD Suffocate Unarmed Black Man Who Later Dies in Hospital

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by Yoho

So who gets to determine if their lives are in danger? The Monday morning social worker?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1298330729890242561

So that video dictates shooting civilians in the back is ok? Or just black civilians, I'm confused. Two cops poorly executing a takedown during a traffic stop does not excuse shooting an unarmed man in the back. Anyone who says they believe so, probably has a few other opinions they would prefer not to admit to publicly.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

How do you know they weren't certain their life was at risk?

You don't know everything about the case, and until you do, you are simply making uninformed conclusions.

he was getting into his car, they shot him in his back as he was getting into his car, how is he in his car a threat?

[afc wimbledon]

The other point is we pay policemen to take risk, that is their job, they are expected to take more risk than you or I and we cant shoot someone because they were getting into their car, even if we thought they might have a gun

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

The problem with this thinking is that waiting until a gun is pointed at you can be too late. In a nation where there are nearly 400 million firearms, I can see why they're impatient.

That is definitely part of the problem. Not just for why police can be jumpy, but for the general population in some regions.

But that still doesn't explain why black people are disproportionately affected.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by ignite09

So that video dictates shooting civilians in the back is ok? Or just black civilians, I'm confused. Two cops poorly executing a takedown during a traffic stop does not excuse shooting an unarmed man in the back. Anyone who says they believe so, probably has a few other opinions they would prefer not to admit to publicly.

Or you can watch that video and see how quickly someone simply “reaching into their car” can take a cops life. Is that not obvious to you? You don’t think every police officer in America has been shown this during a training session?

[Elkyiv]

Originally Posted by ignite09

So that video dictates shooting civilians in the back is ok? Or just black civilians, I'm confused. Two cops poorly executing a takedown during a traffic stop does not excuse shooting an unarmed man in the back. Anyone who says they believe so, probably has a few other opinions they would prefer not to admit to publicly.

To my eye, what that video portrays is what can happen to an officer(s) when you let a suspect reach into his car after non-compliance.

[troutman]

Skateboarders pay tribute to Anthony Huber, protester fatally shot in Kenosha overnight
Joseph “Jojo” Rosenbaum, a father of a 2-year-old girl, was also killed in the shooting Tuesday night

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/8/...jojo-rosenbaum

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

he was getting into his car, they shot him in his back as he was getting into his car, how is he in his car a threat?

You might be right.

You might also be wrong.

That's the problem with your conclusion...it's that you reached a conclusion at all.

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Or you can watch that video and see how quickly someone simply “reaching into their car” can take a cops life. Is that not obvious to you? You don’t think every police officer in America has been shown this during a training session?

Yes, I think every police officer has been shown this in their training. How a cop failing to secure a suspect ends up in a death of a cop. It's why so many shoot first, and ask questions later. Poorly trained cops trained to be afraid of black males before they hit the streets is why there is such a problem down there.

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

To my eye, what that video portrays is what can happen to an officer(s) when you let a suspect reach into his car after non-compliance.

Nobody said being a cop doesn't come without risk. The stats show a disproportionate risk to black civilians in cases of police shootings, one video doesn't change that. No matter how much you trolls like to pretend it does.

[calgarybornnraised]

Originally Posted by Yoho

So who gets to determine if their lives are in danger? The Monday morning social worker?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1298330729890242561

Lol.So now we get a sense of your belonging. James Woods is a joke. Another piece of the puzzle.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised

Lol.So now we get a sense of your belonging. James Woods is a joke. Another piece of the puzzle.

If that’s the best you can do your argument is in trouble.

[Elkyiv]

Originally Posted by ignite09

Nobody said being a cop doesn't come without risk.

Nobody said disobeying a cop doesn't come without risk.

Originally Posted by ignite09

The stats show a disproportionate risk to black civilians in cases of police shootings, one video doesn't change that. No matter how much you trolls like to pretend it does.

The stats also show a disproportionate number of firearm crimes are committed by black civilians.

According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher.

Could that explain why they are more at risk in the eyes of police?

The name calling is unnecessary.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

You might be right.

You might also be wrong.

That's the problem with your conclusion...it's that you reached a conclusion at all.

i like your conclusion, harangue a calgary hockey forum with your "insights"

tell me how did you arrive at that conclusion? and why is it so important that we all recognize your superior perspective on this matter? could you possibly just buzz (####) off as you clearly don't have any conclusions of your own?

[Looch City]

We are literally rehashing the same arguments from the first 10 pages of this thread...

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

Nobody said disobeying a cop doesn't come without risk.

Oh I get it now. You don’t understand the concept of police.

I believe the people you’re thinking of are called “secret police” sometimes referred to as Gestapo after the Nazi name for their secret police.

Very different from the police we’re talking about in this thread. But not to worry, a quick google search and some self education via wiki etc and you’ll be up to speed in no time.

[Elkyiv]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Oh I get it now. You don’t understand the concept of police.

I believe the people you’re thinking of are called “secret police” sometimes referred to as Gestapo after the Nazi name for their secret police.

Very different from the police we’re talking about in this thread. But not to worry, a quick google search and some self education via wiki etc and you’ll be up to speed in no time.

strawman

[ignite09]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

Nobody said disobeying a cop doesn't come without risk.



The stats also show a disproportionate number of firearm crimes are committed by black civilians.

According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher.

Could that explain why they are more at risk in the eyes of police?

The name calling is unnecessary.

So cops kill blacks at a higher rate because they're more dangerous? That's your take away? That name calling is because of posters like you who pick and choose what "facts" to take seriously, and which ones you ignore.

[PepsiFree]

Ah, I see now that it’s been revealed that the reports of him having a gun were false, we’ve moved on to “well they should still act as though he has a gun!”

Perhaps if they treated alleged criminal Jacob Blake as he walked away from cops without a gun the same as they treated actual killer Kyle Rittenhouse while he walked towards them with a gun, we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation. I mean maybe it ends up the same, I guess, but probably not.

It’s just interesting that the usual suspects are out, again, justifying the shooting of a Black man any way they can. Unfortunately for then, we’re also seeing a White killer who got the complete opposite treatment, and none of them have a problem with it, so it becomes pretty clear what this is actually all about for some people. They’re just a bit afraid to say it.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Ah, I see now that it’s been revealed that the reports of him having a gun were false, we’ve moved on to “well they should still act as though he has a gun!”

Perhaps if they treated alleged criminal Jacob Blake as he walked away from cops without a gun the same as they treated actual killer Kyle Rittenhouse while he walked towards them with a gun, we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation. I mean maybe it ends up the same, I guess, but probably not.

It’s just interesting that the usual suspects are out, again, justifying the shooting of a Black man any way they can. Unfortunately for then, we’re also seeing a White killer who got the complete opposite treatment, and none of them have a problem with it, so it becomes pretty clear what this is actually all about for some people. They’re just a bit afraid to say it.

It’s much easier if you just come out with a blanket statement that “anyone who disagrees with me in this thread is a racist.”