WESTERN FINALS: Riders vs STAMPEDERS

[North East Goon]

Where was Joffrey Reynolds this game, the Stamps failed to utilize him at all?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Where was Joffrey Reynolds this game, the Stamps failed to utilize him at all?

I mentioned in another thread that Burris usually takes the fall for these playoff failures but Reynolds hasn't been much of a factor for this team in the playoffs. I thought Cornish had more jump.

[theonlywhiteout]

Originally Posted by moon

Al Cameron has been a complete idiot when it comes to the Stamps this year so it will be interesting to see what he has to say.

I will edit the post after reading but wanted to make it clear that I think he was idiot regardless of whether he was right or wrong in his assessment.

Edit:

Well good to see Cameron didn't disappoint.

The guy has shown all season why he is a curling expert and once again is completely wrong in his assessment on what happened.

really? the article seemed pretty bang on to me moon. while I disgree with Al about the overall impact the refs had (he downplays it far too much) the stamps were just as culpable as the refs.

[North East Goon]

What is with Browners horse collar defending, does he really think he is going to get away with these play's? The one Stampeder that needs to be called for his BS. I do understand the frustration of CFL refeer'ing it's pretty sub-par for a professional league, but I do respect the officials love for the game.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I mentioned in another thread that Burris usually takes the fall for these playoff failures but Reynolds hasn't been much of a factor for this team in the playoffs. I thought Cornish had more jump.

I am not sure that you can blame Reynolds when he only touched the ball a few times especially in the 2nd half. He had one good run then instead of going back to running ball because the Minister of Defense left the game, the Stamps started throwing the ball again. I am not sure exactly how many rushing Stamps had the whole game. So blaming someone for not performing when he was never really involve much in the game is so unfair.

[North East Goon]

As soon as Barrin simpson left the game, the Stamps should have started running the ball straight up the gut, they could have controlled the clock and tired out the Riders D. This loss is on the stamps much more than the reffing.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Wow that's pretty unprofessional for a journalist. Not that I am surprised though as Rider nation is probably neck and neck with the Canucks for the most classless group of fans in North America.

The Calgary Herald seems to have a similar view. http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...748/story.html

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by OzSome

I am not sure that you can blame Reynolds when he only touched the ball a few times especially in the 2nd half. He had one good run then instead of going back to running ball because the Minister of Defense left the game, the Stamps started throwing the ball again. I am not sure exactly how many rushing Stamps had the whole game. So blaming someone for not performing when he was never really involve much in the game is so unfair.

You misread my statement. I didn't blame him for yesterday's loss just that he's never been big for the Stampeders in the playoffs in any year.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

The Calgary Herald seems to have a similar view. http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...748/story.html

Where did they mention the Stamps disrespecting their opponents and the sport?

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Where did they mention the Stamps disrespecting their opponents and the sport?

Whoops. I linked the wrong article. NM, it turns out I was reading a re-print of the Vanstone article on the Heralds site...

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by Doctordestiny

Seriolusly? You're defending Browner, the king of illegal stuff on receivers? LOL

Weston Dressler is the CFLs answer to Alex Burrows. The Canucks should start scouting him for the NHL cause he's got great diving ability.

[JayP]

Does anyone actually expect any of these sports "journalists" to actually call out the refs and have a controversial opinion? If they do that they risk losing access to the league and then they have no way of doing their jobs properly.

I just like Cameron's take that the Riders were somehow better. Honestly, what did they do better? Both teams played an almost identical game, but the Riders were given second chances when they couldn't convert in the red zone. The guy even admits that the 2nd illegal contact shouldn't have been called which would've left the score at 16-16, but apparently the Riders were the far superior team.

[troutman]

I don't think the refs or the CFL has any intentional conspiracy to favor the Riders.

The Riders enjoyed a fair amount of luck this year. Three O/T wins at home. Durant jump-balls getting bailed out by pass interference calls. Bad weather and incompetent refs leveled the playing field in the Western Final.

Still, the game was there for the Stamps to win and they failed to execute.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by troutman

Still, the game was there for the Stamps to win and they failed to execute.

Yep there is no doubt that the Stampeders could have easily won this game as despite all the penalties and calls that went the Riders way they were still in position to win the game. The offense just didn't come through despite starting at midfield for a good portion of the game. The hot and cold play of the offense has been a big problem for a few years now.

[moon]

Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout

really? the article seemed pretty bang on to me moon. while I disgree with Al about the overall impact the refs had (he downplays it far too much) the stamps were just as culpable as the refs.

Bang on?

He didn't get one thing right.

His comments about the reffing were as you said downplayed way too much and his comments about Anderson were garbage.

The Riders weren't resiliant in the second half they were handed the game by the refs. The Stamps don't have only themselves to blame they have the league and refs to blame for costing them the game.

And the only reason to not count the Riders out is because the league/refs will ensure they are in the game no matter how badly Montreal outplays them. If it were an even game Montreal would kill the Riders easily.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by moon

Bang on?

He didn't get one thing right.

His comments about the reffing were as you said downplayed way too much and his comments about Anderson were garbage.

The Riders weren't resiliant in the second half they were handed the game by the refs. The Stamps don't have only themselves to blame they have the league and refs to blame for costing them the game.

And the only reason to not count the Riders out is because the league/refs will ensure they are in the game no matter how badly Montreal outplays them. If it were an even game Montreal would kill the Riders easily.

The refs aren't the reason the stamps only scored 5 points after the first quarter. i think the refereeing was terrible but there was no execution.

[jeremywilhelm]

I'm a big Riders fan. And I definitely think the refs helped the riders win. There were alot of baffling calls in that game.

[moon]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

The refs aren't the reason the stamps only scored 5 points after the first quarter. i think the refereeing was terrible but there was no execution.

The execution was certainly off but the bad calls disrupt the offense and extending Rider drives also hurt the offense by putting them in worse field position, reducing number of possessions and changing game plan because of the score.

Certainly the offense should have been much better against a weak Rider defense but it shouldn't have mattered at all if the refs would have just done their job and not handed the game to the Riders.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

The refs aren't the reason the stamps only scored 5 points after the first quarter. i think the refereeing was terrible but there was no execution.

There was no execution for either team late in the game.

The Stamps scored 5 points in the 2nd half. The Riders scored 3, but the refs gave them an extra 4.

Clearly the weather was a major issue as the game went on. It's easy to say that the Stamps should've just scored again, but in those conditions there's only so much you can do.

[sixpacked]

[QUOTE=moon;2798462]The execution was certainly off but the bad calls disrupt the offense and extending Rider drives also hurt the offense by putting them in worse field position, reducing number of possessions and changing game plan because of the score.

Certainly the offense should have been much better against a weak Rider defense but it shouldn't have mattered at all if the refs would have just done their job and not handed the game to the Riders.[/QUOTE]

The same Rider defense that held your league-leading offense to ONE TD, and less than 100 yds rushing, in their last and only chance to get to the GC?? And you are complaining about the refs??? Hilarious. How about put the balme on the offence from not converting those FGs into TD. How about blaming the D for their sloppy tackling and inability to stop the lowly, jump-ball tossing Durant??

Huge sour grapes for blaming the refs. The grounding call on Burris, the pass didn't cross the LOS and the ball ended up in the 6th row. Since when is it legal to 2-handed shove a receiver to the ground when he doesn't have the ball, and before the pass was thrown? And when you make a big play, and the play is dead, you pick-up the ball and deliberately strut to face the Rider DB and do your gun-show pose, you are putting the case forward to the ref, who was standing 2 ft away, to call a textbook case of taunting. I have seen it called numerous times in past. But no the league/refs were out to get the Stamps. Frickin' hilarious.