The Winter's Coming Winter Tires Thread - Page 23 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

STeeLy · 11-28-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wooohooo

When I was looking for tires, some places recommended them to me over some cheaper winters. I was told it was probably on par with the middle of the pack of winters which was truly amazing for all seasons.

That's cuz they're all weathers, not all seasons.

Most, if not all, All seasons aren't winter rated (the lack of a snowflake on the tire)

Whereas most, if not all, all weathers are rated for winter use.

It's in the compound they use to make the tire. If you buy cheap ass winter tires, a lot of them are just all season tires with a layer of compound used in winter tires and maybe a "winter" tread pattern. Once that initial layer of compound is gone, all you're left with is an all season tire.

Bill Bumface · 11-28-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wooohooo

I played with the offset, and I found the offset are usually two numbers. 34-45mm. Which number do I use? I put them in and I think it fits...

If the hub is a little too large is that okay? I know there's something about hubcentric where the weight is on the hubs and the lugcentric is on the lugs. Is it the rim that makes it hubcentric/lugcentric? How can I tell which it is? Would it be bad to run say a different cars wheels (neon) onto my car (corolla)?

Thanks

Changing your offset by 10 mm is usually not a big deal. Prefer the look of lower offset wheels (more flush with the body of the car) so I'd go with 35mm if it was me. 40mm would be just fine too.

Hubcentric/Lugcentric:

Usually when you put on after market wheels they have a larger bore size for the hub so they can fit all cars with the use of hub rings. Not using hub rings isn't a big deal, you just may end up with vibrations.

Your Corolla likely has a centre bore of 54.1 mm and the Neon 57.1mm. So you could try without hub rings, but if you got vibration, or are anal, you could get some. They're very inexpensive.

Stay Golden · 11-28-2011, 09:57 AM

For a truck you can't go wrong with Goodyear Wranglers. Every year no problems.

Bill Bumface · 11-28-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For a truck you can't go wrong with Goodyear Wranglers. Every year no problems.

Weird. First Stay Golden post in weeks with no mention of Nenshi sucking. Too bad he doesn't make winter tires. I'm sure they'd suck.

THE SCUD · 11-28-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wooohooo

Also.. I can't for the life of me remove my rear tires. I've tried spraying penetrating oil where the hub and wheel are but I think they're just too rusted on. I've loosened the lug nuts a bit and took it for a drive around the block but no luck. I've tried to use a mallet and wack it but it's on a spare tire jack and caused the car to actually shift to fall off the jack. F me! I've called 5 tire places and they said the earliest slot is next week... maybe...

What else can I do?

Kick them. What I do (this is not advice just information, you can't sue me if you die or get hurt or damage your car):

First I losen the lugs
Then I jack up the car
I remove the lugs
put on your sh*tkickers, sit on your ass and give a flat, footed kick into the rim edge. do a bunch of kics on one side, then on another. you're trying to twist teh wheel off the hub

This has worked every time for me with rusted-on rims.

Stay Golden · 11-28-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Weird. First Stay Golden post in weeks with no mention of Nenshi sucking. Too bad he doesn't make winter tires. I'm sure they'd suck.

touche

THE SCUD · 11-28-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stay Golden

For a truck you can't go wrong with Goodyear Wranglers. Every year no problems.

Terrible suggestion, as is the norm with your nenshi-bashing illogical posts. Wranglers are an ALL-SEASON tire and don't hold a candle to the ice grip of a true winter tire.

Those tires are TERRIBLY rated ALL SEASON tires:

They get BAD FOR AN ALLSEASON ratings on snow/ice. 37 out of 57th? That's a fail.

wooohooo · 11-28-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by THE SCUD

Kick them. What I do (this is not advice just information, you can't sue me if you die or get hurt or damage your car):

First I losen the lugs
Then I jack up the car
I remove the lugs
put on your sh*tkickers, sit on your ass and give a flat, footed kick into the rim edge. do a bunch of kics on one side, then on another. you're trying to twist teh wheel off the hub

This has worked every time for me with rusted-on rims.

Haha. I did that with two buddies for a good 15 minutes until we gave up and used a mallet. No budge. Perhaps I need a bigger mallet haha.

EDIT: They probably rusted on tight because they've probably been on there for a few years. I doubt the mechanic rotated our tires...

THE SCUD · 11-28-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wooohooo

Haha. I did that with two buddies for a good 15 minutes until we gave up and used a mallet. No budge. Perhaps I need a bigger mallet haha.

EDIT: They probably rusted on tight because they've probably been on there for a few years. I doubt the mechanic rotated our tires...

I find kicking way better than a mallet. Plus with a good rubber soled boot you will cushion your foot and not damage the rim.

coles notes: KICK HARDER!

ranchlandsselling · 11-28-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by THE SCUD

they are okay. They are a great in the snow for an all season. Why don't you buy some winter tires and rims? You have (I assume) relatively new all seasons, use those for the spring/summer/fall and put on dedicated winters for the winter. It won't cost you anything over the life of the car, as you'll wear each set half what you would 1 set of all seasons. You can likely sell the rims for close to what you pay for them when you sell the car.

coles notes: Buy a dedicated winter on their own rims, best time to do this is when the car is relatively new and you can amortize their cost over the life of the car to result in a lifetime cost of zero.

Thanks
I will only drive this car until April 2013. Not buying new or rims for 1.5 - 1.75 winters.

THE SCUD · 11-28-2011, 10:23 AM

Sounds good. Then the nokians will be an upgrade

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ranchlandsselling · 11-28-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by THE SCUD

Sounds good. Then the nokians will be an upgrade

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Any thoughts on how much better they'll be than current All Seasons?
Thanks!

THE SCUD · 11-28-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

Any thoughts on how much better they'll be than current All Seasons?
Thanks!

They will be better, I can't tell you how much - decently better but not night and day, Id' think?

here's a thread on the RG2s versus winters:
http://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=59285.0

From the owner of a big tire store owner who posted in that thread:

These are all very different tires. Xi2 is softer compund and will give you the best winter performance, but softer tread means more tread squirm and quicker wear. Michelin claims that this tire lasts longer, b ut when compared to the LM25 or WRG2 they will wear quicker. Blizzak LM25 is a performance winter that will not give you as good deep snow and ice performance, but will give you reasonable and better high-speed stability, handling and wear. WRG2 is a compromise and will give you decent in all catagories, but not excellent.

What you need to understand is the ice grip you're after is mainly a function of the softness of the rubber, which gives it the ability to remain sticky in the cold. By virtue of their use, rubber that is designed to be sticky at -30C will be goo at +30C, so you'll never get great winter performance out of an all season, unless you like watching your tread melt off in July.

My 2 cents: If you're buying new tires for the car cause the stock all seasons are wearing down, and it' appears to be a lease, then sure go with the WGR2.

burnin_vernon · 12-01-2011, 05:30 PM

I'm looking for some good all-weather (snowpeak rated) tires for my truck. I was thinking of the Goodyear Silent Armours but they are pretty pricey. Is there anything comparable to their quality?

KelVarnsen · 10-02-2012, 04:24 PM

Since this thread often gets bumped in time for the winter season I might as well do it.

I need winter tires for a 2008 VW Golf City, any recommendations?

Nufy · 10-02-2012, 05:02 PM

Just had the wife's van in at fountain tire for new shoes...

Good Year Ultra Grip Ice WRT

4 for 3 sale cost me 700 bones installed...

I kept the all seasons for next spring when the lease is up...

BlackArcher101 · 10-02-2012, 06:04 PM

Good bump. I finally replaced my studded KW19's with non-studded Hankook iPike W409's this past weekend.

The Yen Man · 10-02-2012, 07:15 PM

Replaced my Kumho KW17 this year after 5 years of use. Last year was a little hairy as I got stuck coming out of my driveway a few times. I went to Costco a couple weeks ago to beat the rush. Got myself a set of Bridgestone Blizzacks ws70s. Can't wait to try them out for the season. I'm expecting better performance than the Kumhos.

KelVarnsen · 10-02-2012, 07:29 PM

Is it too early to put on winter tires? Something about the temperature? Or can I buy them now?

BlackArcher101 · 10-02-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Is it too early to put on winter tires? Something about the temperature? Or can I buy them now?

Go ahead and put them on. I've run mine throughout summer and they still last. An extra week will have a negligible effect on the treadwear, but will give you the ease of mine not having to put up with the mass panic.