[Trade] Markstrom (31.25% retained) traded to NJ for 2025 1st (top 10 protected) and Bahl

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

LOL. This is not a playoff competitive team. That's just Conroy building hope for the future.

Look at the D. Look at the net. That's bottom 5 calibre.

RFK is also running to be President and says he can win. Sometimes people say things.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420393578308718597

This was Zadorov's "JFresh" card after we acquired him from Chicago.

So value wise that outs Bahl around a 3rd.


So it's a protected 1st + 3rd for Markstrom retained for 2 years.

It's not a huge homerun either way, but definitely feels a little light.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Bahl is what he is, a bottom pairing dman for a team that needs NHL bodies.
He won't change the fortunes of this team.
But with this defense and a Wolf/Vladar tandem - this could be a bottom 5 team.
That's what changes the fortunes.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

For those who are saying that this still isnt a complete tear down and rebuild just remember, now its our job to make sure the seats are at least 90% full for the next 6 years or so

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by traptor

So value wise that outs Bahl around a 3rd.


So it's a protected 1st + 3rd for Markstrom retained for 2 years.

It's not a huge homerun either way, but definitely feels a little light.

If he was only willing to waive to go to NJD, then what do you do about it?

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Gotta say, whatever the trade, moving from Calgary to . . . . the Newark area . . . . seems like a downgrade.

No way any of the players live in Newark.

[Bonded]

Matty kind of ruined this trade for me lol. I totally thought the Panthers had to get a top ten pick for it not to transfer.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by nik-

What a sad existence lol

You mean yours? Yes, it certainly seems to be.

[Paulie Walnuts]

This is probably going to sound hypocritical, but the last few teams in the finals have had bigger backends. Conroy even mentioned it in his interview the one he said Markstrom doens't want a trade a few days ago.

Vegas was big. Tampa was big. Colorado was semi big. Florida has size.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by traptor

So value wise that outs Bahl around a 3rd.


So it's a protected 1st + 3rd for Markstrom retained for 2 years.

It's not a huge homerun either way, but definitely feels a little light.

I'd reckon Bahl would certainly hold more value than that since he is two years younger, and not arbitration eligible like Zadorov was. A large reason Zadorov was moved at all in the first place was due to his contract situation.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by traptor

So value wise that outs Bahl around a 3rd.


So it's a protected 1st + 3rd for Markstrom retained for 2 years.

It's not a huge homerun either way, but definitely feels a little light.

Zadorov was getting paid more and closer to UFA status. More proven at the time of the deal. Bahl IMO is similar but worth slightly more.

Another point, most of us liked Zadorov while he was here despite the not-so-great stats before he got here?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Icon

No.

If Florida's 2025 1st isn't a lottery pick, Calgary gets Florida's 2025 1st round pick.
If that happens:
- If Calgary's 2025 pick isn't top 10, Montreal gets the better of Calgary & Florida's 2025 1st round picks.
- If Calgary's 2025 pick is top 10, Montreal gets Florida's 2025 1st round pick.
a

Wait I am confused now. How can there be a condition the Flames pick being top ten if Florida's pick doesn't transfer if it is a lottery pick.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by traptor

So value wise that outs Bahl around a 3rd.


So it's a protected 1st + 3rd for Markstrom retained for 2 years.

It's not a huge homerun either way, but definitely feels a little light.

Well if Bahl was a RFA that required a 3.2 million dollar qualifying offer and eventually signed for 3.75 million the comparison would be accurate. Bahl makes 1.05 million so whatever the value of the 2.7 million is should also be added to his value if you are using Zadorov as the comparable.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TOfan

LOL. This from the guy who one year ago thought the Flames should get a first round pick for each of Tanev, Hanifin, Zadorov, Lindholm, Toffoli, and Backlund. As if there were 6 teams willing to give up there first round picks and the only players they would have been interested in doing so played for the Flames.

What were the other offers on Markstrom? What were the extenuating circumstances?

The Flames don’t get to unilaterally make up the value of their players.

The Flames did well here and none of us, or 99.8% truly know what the Flames could have got now or prior to.

…stop pretending.

Well, to be fair:

Tanev - a 1st round pick was offered
Hanifin - got a 1st
Lindholm - got a 1st

Zadorov - don't know if I ever thought we'd get a 1st for him.
Toffoli - 100% expected a 1st.
Backlund - we re-signed

None of us know what the other offers were. I've been pretty clear in this thread, I'm good with the return - it was specifically the $4M'ish in retention that I thought might have been a determining factor somewhere along the way.

34 year old returns a 1st? I'm happy with that. $4M retention? I guess that's where Bahl balances it a bit.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Matty kind of ruined this trade for me lol. I totally thought the Panthers had to get a top ten pick for it not to transfer.

Ha sorry man. Just really lean into the Cats fandom. I do genuinely think that it's unlikely they miss the playoffs with the crew they have, but am a bit worried about it with how badly they are tanking in the finals now and the kind of marks that could leave. But immensely talented team.

[undercoverbrother]

Are we happy or unhappy with this.

[dino7c]

Whenever the Flamea make a trade or a UFA signing the guys a bum but then when they trade them they supposedly didnt get enough. Zadorov, Markstrom, Tanev

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

How many d men do Calgary now have for next year? Seems like a lot . Not to mention prospects that could be fighting for a spot

Minus prospects

Weegar
Andersson
Miromanov
Bahl
Pachal
Hanley

Kylington free agent assuming will sign
Gilbert free agent betting won’t sign

[#-3]

Interestingly if somehow the Flames finish ahead of the Panthers next year. And the Devils finish bottom 10 again, they are currently holding 4 unprotected 2026 1sts.

Not something I think will happen, but it's interesting.

If you also look at UFAs and cap space, there is probably an outside chance they could acquire 1 or 2 more if they were determined to.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This is probably going to sound hypocritical, but the last few teams in the finals have had bigger backends. Conroy even mentioned it in his interview the one he said Markstrom doens't want a trade a few days ago.

Vegas was big. Tampa was big. Colorado was semi big. Florida has size.

Tampa was the 1st to kind of have a couple high end dmen with a bunch of huge dmen behind their skill guys. Definitely a trend since. I'm a huge fan of what our d is looking like for the future. Low cap hit guys too.