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		|  07-14-2023, 06:22 AM | #441 |  
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					Originally Posted by dissentowner  What I have heard in regards to Backlund is besides Colorado poking around there has been nothing else out there. Unless something comes out of left field I would expect Backlund to start the year in Calgary. If the Flames are struggling he will probably garner the interest he isn't getting now at the trade deadline. If the Flames are competitive they probably just keep him for the playoff run and then say goodbye and thanks for all the fish. |  
Thanks for info. Just goes to show how horrible the trade season is this summer. A summer where we have 2 top 6 centres and a #2-3 dman on the block, and can’t get much of anything in return. Not sure I like the , if playoff spot , let him go to ufa part. That said it’s exactly what I think will happen with not just backlund , but with hanifin also if in playoff spot.
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		|  07-14-2023, 07:40 AM | #442 |  
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					Originally Posted by kyuss275  That said it’s exactly what I think will happen with not just backlund , but with hanifin also if in playoff spot. |  
i would bet almost anything that Hanifin will not be walked to UFA - regardless of playoff standings.
		 
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		|  07-14-2023, 08:23 AM | #443 |  
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					Originally Posted by timun  If the Calgary Flames want me to watch their product you're god-damned right I expect them to be trying their hardest at all times. |  
Back in the day, Al MacInnis remarked to a member of the Calgary media that players give it their all in about 75 per cent of regular season games and ease off in about 25 per cent. That it’s unrealistic to expect max effort every day on the job. He got roasted for the comment. But there’s no reason to believe it wasn’t an honest appraisal of NHL players.
 
But we don’t have to take MacInnis’ word on this. Just watch a typical regular-season game vs a first-round playoff match. The difference in effort and intensity is clear to see.
		 
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					Originally Posted by fotze  If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan. | 
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		|  07-14-2023, 08:26 AM | #444 |  
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			Anyone that expects a professional player to give 100% on every shift or game needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they have never had a few days a year where they slacked off at work or didn't give 100% every single day.
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		|  07-14-2023, 08:33 AM | #445 |  
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			If giving 100% every day was realistic and normal, it wouldn't be called giving 100%, it would just be what you do.
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		|  07-14-2023, 08:34 AM | #446 |  
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			I always give 110% so on the off days where I'm not at my best I'm still giving 100%
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		|  07-16-2023, 01:19 AM | #447 |  
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			This is where Gio was a unicoen, gave 100% every reg season game.
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		|  07-16-2023, 01:50 AM | #448 |  
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					Originally Posted by InternationalVillager  I don't know about Canada but it can't be that much different. Here in the US, I have personally been at parties with current active athletes in MLB, NHL, NBA until 5-6 am in the morning and they have played the next day. I am quite sure they weren't at 100% as I certainly wasn't the next day let alone play a sport at a major level. My knowledge is that this is pretty common in the regular season. As playoffs roll around, obviously things get a bit tighter.
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Hm.  Most games start at 7 pm local time 
 
So if normal people start work at 9 am, then that’d be like going out until 8 pm
 
I don’t know how I’d feel showing up at work all bright eyed and bushy tailed,  knowing the guy beside me went out until 8 pm.
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		|  07-16-2023, 08:49 AM | #449 |  
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					Originally Posted by Samonadreau  This is where Gio was a unicoen, gave 100% every reg season game. |  
No, he definitely didn't.
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		|  07-16-2023, 08:56 AM | #450 |  
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					Originally Posted by dissentowner  What I have heard in regards to Backlund is besides Colorado poking around there has been nothing else out there. Unless something comes out of left field I would expect Backlund to start the year in Calgary. If the Flames are struggling he will probably garner the interest he isn't getting now at the trade deadline. If the Flames are competitive they probably just keep him for the playoff run and then say goodbye and thanks for all the fish. |  
Is Colorado still poking around or has that ship sailed with the moves they’ve made?
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		|  07-16-2023, 09:32 AM | #451 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Original FFIV  Is Colorado still poking around or has that ship sailed with the moves they’ve made? |  
It sailed.
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		|  07-16-2023, 09:58 AM | #452 |  
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			I still see him in Boston. Too good of a fit.
		 
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		|  07-16-2023, 10:05 AM | #453 |  
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					Originally Posted by dissentowner  It sailed. |  
Sailed, hit an iceberg, and sunk.  Sometimes the best deal is the one that is available.  Backlund should have been moved when they had the chance.  The extra pick and cap space would have been valuable to have heading into the draft and free agency.
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		|  07-16-2023, 10:16 AM | #454 |  
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			Backlund will be 35 and 5 months old when he plays game 1 on  his next contract.
 What would he be wanting for a 2 year extension  or what does he expect to sign for as a UFA?
 
 
 Conroy knows how fast the decline comes as he was a 3rd line C filling in on 1st line centre as a 36 year old and then on total empty a year later.
 
 
 Spezza signed 3 700K 1 year deals starting when he was 36.
 
 Wheeler will be  37 and 1 month when  he takes the ice  for the Rangers at 1.1 M
 
 Corey Perry signed with the habs for 750K at age 35  and then 2 years at 1M with Tampa
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		|  07-16-2023, 03:32 PM | #455 |  
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					Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald  Sailed, hit an iceberg, and sunk.  Sometimes the best deal is the one that is available.  Backlund should have been moved when they had the chance.  The extra pick and cap space would have been valuable to have heading into the draft and free agency. |  
Except there's no reason to believe a trade was actually on the table, to the point of being ready to consummate. Both CGY and COL would have been exploring many possibilities...they each might have had the general framework of deals with several teams before deciding which to pursue in final detail.
 
COL opted for the deal that cost them nothing, with probably a lower AAV
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		|  07-16-2023, 03:39 PM | #456 |  
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			Hold on to him and get a low first , maybe a 2nd and some B/C prospects at the TDL
 His best value is a rental
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		|  07-16-2023, 03:41 PM | #457 |  
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					Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald  Sailed, hit an iceberg, and sunk.  Sometimes the best deal is the one that is available.  Backlund should have been moved when they had the chance.  The extra pick and cap space would have been valuable to have heading into the draft and free agency. |  
Flames have a habit of keeping players past their due date. We should have traded some players last season but we still went fot it.
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		|  07-16-2023, 03:45 PM | #458 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flamesfan05  Hold on to him and get a low first , maybe a 2nd and some B/C prospects at the TDL
 His best value is a rental
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For sure,  however the Flames don't want to be holding 3 or 4 players that are clearly going to leave.
 
I can't imagine,  it will be great within the locker room.
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		|  07-16-2023, 03:46 PM | #459 |  
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					Originally Posted by flambers  For sure,  however the Flames don't want to be holding 3 or 4 players that are clearly going to leave.
 I can't imagine,  it will be great within the locker room.
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Yeah but doesn’t look like Conroy is having lots of choices
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		|  07-16-2023, 03:47 PM | #460 |  
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					Originally Posted by CliffFletcher  Back in the day, Al MacInnis remarked to a member of the Calgary media that players give it their all in about 75 per cent of regular season games and ease off in about 25 per cent. That it’s unrealistic to expect max effort every day on the job. He got roasted for the comment. But there’s no reason to believe it wasn’t an honest appraisal of NHL players.
 But we don’t have to take MacInnis’ word on this. Just watch a typical regular-season game vs a first-round playoff match. The difference in effort and intensity is clear to see.
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Sure, but sometimes that sags to 50%, and then in somebody like Kadri's case circa winter 2023, 10-25%. So, not acceptable.
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