What to do with Huberdeau?

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by T-Dog

How does Mathew Tkachuk’s dream season affect Huberdeau? Does watching Tkachuk’s playoff heroics taking the Panthers to the finals motivate Huberdeau or does it mess with his head?

Hopefully, he takes his anger out on the Oilers and Canucks by lighting them up this season

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

82 games where he and other players hated coming to work every morning because the head coach lost his mind. He's starting year 1 of an 8 year deal and you have preconceived notions of booing him after five games. Think about that.

Huberdeau is the 8th highest paid forward in the NHL. Of the highest paid 40 forwards in the NHL there are only three players with a worse Pts/G percentage.

$10.5M Huberdeau 0.70
$9,85M Seguin 0.66
$9.2M Bäckström 0.55 ( who only played 39 games)
$8.25M Voracek 0.55 ( who only played 11 games)


4 points every 5 games is not the expectation it is the standard. 5 points every 5 games is the expectation.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I am not giving Huderdeau a clean slate. 10.5 million dollar players for 8 years. If we struggles five games into the season I am going to boo him when he touches the puck.

This is why there’s players who don’t want to come to Canadian markets

[chedder]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Huberdeau is the 8th highest paid forward in the NHL. Of the highest paid 40 forwards in the NHL there are only three players with a worse Pts/G percentage.



$10.5M Huberdeau 0.70

$9,85M Seguin 0.66

$9.2M Bäckström 0.55 ( who only played 39 games)

$8.25M Voracek 0.55 ( who only played 11 games)





4 points every 5 games is not the expectation it is the standard. 5 points every 5 games is the expectation.

Now do last 3 or 5 year average points per game. He had a bad year with a coach he hated and had been ripped out of the only home he's known as a pro.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

This is why there’s players who don’t want to come to Canadian markets

Meh, it's one dramatic fan on a message board.
I'm sure it's easy to find 1 extreme opinion in any fanbase, Canadian or not.

It think taxes, weather, lack of privacy in public spaces have a lot more to do with players not wanting Canadian markets that random guy on internet.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by chedder

Now do last 3 or 5 year average points per game. He had a bad year with a coach he hated and had been ripped out of the only home he's known as a pro.

There should be no problem then. He will prove his value and I can sit and watch politely.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

This is why there’s players who don’t want to come to Canadian markets

Or stay

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What is with the 55 point player crap like holy crap do people just forget what this guy has done his entire career? This isn't a bum.

Its so frustrating reading hes not good or a star blah blah. Go do some research take out last year and the 115 point season and hes still a .85 point player and that includes a 31 point rookie season and 28 point sophomore season.

He is a lot closer to being a 100 point player.

You're talking about the past. No one is saying he couldn't put up those numbers in the past, because obviously he did it. He just didn't show anything this past season that he will do it again, and until he does, the criticism is warranted. Having the talent is one thing, but that isn't all it takes. Even just a good effort every night would be appreciated, because there were long stretches last season where he was completely invisible. Just no gusto from him, except of a small handful of games. Other players at least had a presence on the ice more consistently, so it can't just be all coaching. A lot of this has to fall on the player.

[soulchoice]

I posted this in the WHC thread, but since it’s about Huby, I figured it’s ok to put this here too.

It’s too bad Huberdeau did not go over, as I have heard from some that even Team Canada had hoped he would. I think it could have sparked some confidence in his game. It was also mentioned that the Flames were hoping he went as well, and some in the office were a little disappointed he didn’t. Note, this does not mean they don’t have faith he will have a better season next year. As it is clear, they have that confidence.

I truly hope he returns to some semblance of a ppg player. Anything less and both the Flames and the fans are likely to be sour. The onus will be on him to train and get ready for a comeback season.

He doesn’t have to do the same as 19 is doing, as it’s doubtful he will. But, between Weeger playing well and a ppg Huby, the trade won’t seem so lopsided as it is now. However, what Huby does to prove it will not be determined till a year from now. It’s on him.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by soulchoice

I posted this in the WHC thread, but since it’s about Huby, I figured it’s ok to put this here too.

It’s too bad Huberdeau did not go over, as I have heard from some that even Team Canada had hoped he would. I think it could have sparked some confidence in his game. It was also mentioned that the Flames were hoping he went as well, and some in the office were a little disappointed he didn’t. Note, this does not mean they don’t have faith he will have a better season next year. As it is clear, they have that confidence.

I truly hope he returns to some semblance of a ppg player. Anything less and both the Flames and the fans are likely to be sour. The onus will be on him to train and get ready for a comeback season.

He doesn’t have to do the same as 19 is doing, as it’s doubtful he will. But, between Weeger playing well and a ppg Huby, the trade won’t seem so lopsided as it is now. However, what Huby does to prove it will not be determined till a year from now. It’s on him.

That's bizarre he wouldn't want to go over.

I'm also not sure what he has done with his time as a flame to warrant anyone defending him so far. He has a lot to prove after a terrible season in the Flaming C.

[RedHawk12]

We should trade him to Montreal and watch him go on a Tkachuk-like run to the finals next year with the Habs.

Some fans here just can't appreciate what we have until they're gone.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

We should trade him to Montreal and watch him go on a Tkachuk-like run to the finals next year with the Habs.

Some fans here just can't appreciate what we have until they're gone.

I would be fine with that. Rather see him get 100 points for another team than 55 points with the Flames at a $10.5 million cap hit until he is 38..

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

You're talking about the past. No one is saying he couldn't put up those numbers in the past, because obviously he did it. He just didn't show anything this past season that he will do it again, and until he does, the criticism is warranted. Having the talent is one thing, but that isn't all it takes. Even just a good effort every night would be appreciated, because there were long stretches last season where he was completely invisible. Just no gusto from him, except of a small handful of games. Other players at least had a presence on the ice more consistently, so it can't just be all coaching. A lot of this has to fall on the player.

Yeah because the entire team looked so good last year? Are we forgetting a coach who coached the entire season like he was sticking it to someone and used players like Huberdeau to send his message.

You obviously have a hate on for Huberdeau its very clear just like in the coaching thread you blamed the players.

The player is fine he just needs his confidence back and allowed to play his game and actually get minutes.

55 points is the past just like you said you can't use that, just like you don't want to admit he was a 115 point player the year prior.

Garbage takes.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I would be fine with that. Rather see him get 100 points for another team than 55 points with the Flames at a $10.5 million cap hit until he is 38..

Another ridiculous and dumb take.

You would rather he go to Montreal and get 100 points and a cup? Real Flames fan we got here.

Also he didn't make 10.5 million last year get your facts straight.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I would be fine with that. Rather see him get 100 points for another team than 55 points with the Flames at a $10.5 million cap hit until he is 38..

I'd rather see him get 80-90 pts for the next 5-6 years here.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

That's bizarre he wouldn't want to go over.

I'm also not sure what he has done with his time as a flame to warrant anyone defending him so far. He has a lot to prove after a terrible season in the Flaming C.

Why is it bizarre? The guy just went through massive changes both personally and professionally this past off-season which I am sure was an absolute whirlwind.

Taking some time to himself while reflecting on this past season sounds like just what he needs.

Imagine he went over there and got hurt? He needs to come into next season with complete health both physically and mentally. Skipping a second rate tournament was the correct decision.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Why is it bizarre?

I would be hoping he had the competitive fire burning to use this as a chance to re-find his game and prove he can be a leader while playing for his country. Weegar went and he just went through the same changes.

If Canada wanted him and the team (Flames) wanted him to go it's strange he chose not too imo

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

He needs to come into next season with complete health both physically and mentally.

This we agree on. I sure hope we get a better version of him next season than the one we witnessed last year.

[devo22]

this thread will make for a fun read after his massive rebound season.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I'd rather see him get 80-90 pts for the next 5-6 years here.

Is 80 points even worth 10.5 mill? I don't think it is.
The cap is going to go up, but point totals have also been inflated, big time.
The team could easily be competitive, but it's hard to truly content without optimal cap efficiency.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The funniest part of this whole thing is how some people wish he goes to another team and tears it up and wins a cup.