[PGT] Flames 6, Bolts 3: The Never Ending PGT

[GioforPM]

Watching the video I was even less troubled than the print version. This kid played under 7 minutes. Sutter wanted to talk about the game, if anything. He probably would have appreciated questions on Toffoli or Andersson or Hanifin - the guys who made an impact. The point of part one of his answer was “you’re asking me about a kid who played a small role, so I’m giving you the bare minimum of what he did”. The point of part two was “there’s a lot of time for this kid to play and a lot more that he’s going to do that’s worthy of a real question”.

Sutter has his faults and he obviously has a reluctance to play kids, especially smaller ones. But his response wasn’t about that IMO. It was about coming off a big win and getting questions that weren’t really related to the win.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

No, it's not about his critique, it's about his lack of praise for a very pedestrian 6 minutes of play. People are losing their minds for him saying exactly what the player did out there and no more. Instead I hear this endless drivel that he doesn't like young players or doesn't handle them well.

His experiences at this point have told him to hedge his bets unless the player is a real standout, so he's doing just that. Seems prudent.

You said this a lot more succinctly than I just did. Damn you.

[timbit]

Darryl is a strong, smart and productive leader. He is not a yeller and screamer, yet is extremely passionate about playing the game the right way and winning.

He is honest , works exceptionally hard and builds relationships with each player and coaches. Do they know, specifically, what is expected of them? Yes.

He is perfectly comfortable in delivering positive or negative energy. Both have a purpose. He understands motivational tactics better than most.

Does he make mistakes? Of course. But not many.

Good luck if you’re looking for someone, as a head coach, that you think will make this team more productive.

Big turnover from last season. Patience is a virtue.

Successes, wisdom, and strong tough leadership are not in abundance, these days.

[getbak]

Pelletier gets called up and doesn't play for 6 game: "DARRYL HATES YOUNG PLAYERS!!!"

Pelletier plays his first NHL game, and Darryl doesn't throw a party for him in the post game presser: "DARRYL HATES YOUNG PLAYERS!!!"

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by getbak

Pelletier gets called up and doesn't play for 6 game: "DARRYL HATES YOUNG PLAYERS!!!"

Pelletier plays his first NHL game, and Darryl doesn't throw a party for him in the post game presser: "DARRYL HATES YOUNG PLAYERS!!!"

think you guys are just hearing what you want to hear. literally who has said this

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

No, it's not about his critique, it's about his lack of praise for a very pedestrian 6 minutes of play. People are losing their minds for him saying exactly what the player did out there and no more. Instead I hear this endless drivel that he doesn't like young players or doesn't handle them well.

His experiences at this point have told him to hedge his bets unless the player is a real standout, so he's doing just that. Seems prudent.

Nope.

For me it's the disrespect of saying "What's his number" like he doesn't know, and actually not taking the time to provide an actual answer.

If he said "Thought he was okay, needs to work on defensive positioning and strength on the boards" then I would have had no issue. An actual insightful and respectful answer, while still providing the same general outcome of keeping Pelletier humble if that was his goal.

I would never expect him to come out and say "Pelletier was great!"

But there is big difference between constructive critique and what Sutter did tonight.

[TheScorpion]

Laraque weighs in:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1616987124414160896

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

See I think he's all about the team success, and I dont think he likes talking about individual players.

But I do think that he believes his role and coaching is the most important piece of the puzzle for this team to have success right now.

He's said stuff before like "I'm here to teach them how to win" like there is no way they could win without him, and made lots of comments about how the organization was doing things the wrong way before he got here. That's self importance.

And when it comes to coaching I dont think it's a bad thing. I want my coach to be assertive, confident, and a bit arrogant. Honestly thats the only way to get a bunch of 20 and 30 year old millionaires to buy in.

I would say Jon Cooper and Jared Bednar have egos and are a bit arrogant too. Once again not a bad thing for the coach to have.

A coach is here to, stay with me now, coach. Not cheerlead.

That’s not self importance. That’s the definition of the position he’s qualified for and been given.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So you expect guys with 6 minutes to show more?

When the 4th line has Lucic and Ritchie they get 12 minutes.

No, I don’t expect them to show more. Just like I don’t expect the media to use what little time they have to focus on the 6 minutes a 4th liner played when there were 18 other guys who were more deserving of analysis in a good win.

Pelletier played fine. He didn’t make himself the story, but that’s ok. Who would have expected him to? Some members of the media desperately wanted him to be the story, though.

What was the story going to be? That he played fine? Thrilling.

[Dion]

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No, I don’t expect them to show more. Just like I don’t expect the media to use what little time they have to focus on the 6 minutes a 4th liner played when there were 18 other guys who were more deserving of analysis in a good win.

Pelletier played fine. He didn’t make himself the story, but that’s ok. Who would have expected him to? Some members of the media desperately wanted him to be the story, though.

What was the story going to be? That he played fine? Thrilling.

C'mon, it's the first NHL game for a first-round pick. They were always gonna ask what the coach thought. It's a story regardless.

[All In Good Time]

He could have just flat out said

“he was largely unnoticeable and we need more”

which is basically true but would have put all the pressure on the kid
Instead he said it in a way that deflects all the attention to him

I think it’s actually masterful

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No, I don’t expect them to show more. Just like I don’t expect the media to use what little time they have to focus on the 6 minutes a 4th liner played when there were 18 other guys who were more deserving of analysis in a good win.

Pelletier played fine. He didn’t make himself the story, but that’s ok. Who would have expected him to? Some members of the media desperately wanted him to be the story, though.

What was the story going to be? That he played fine? Thrilling.

Oh come on.

I feel like every single time an NHL player makes their debut this question gets asked.

Trying to make this out like the media is in the wrong by even asking about Pelletier is a ridiculous take.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No, I don’t expect them to show more. Just like I don’t expect the media to use what little time they have to focus on the 6 minutes a 4th liner played when there were 18 other guys who were more deserving of analysis in a good win.

Pelletier played fine. He didn’t make himself the story, but that’s ok. Who would have expected him to? Some members of the media desperately wanted him to be the story, though.

What was the story going to be? That he played fine? Thrilling.

Ok fair but this is a 1st rounder playing his first game. If be played 30 minutes or 5 it really doesn't matter a lot of people are interested in seeing a 1st round prospect finally debut. The question was fair and prior to it he was asked about the team did he really need to be db about it?

There was zero need to be rude and disrespectful.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Watching the video I was even less troubled than the print version. This kid played under 7 minutes. Sutter wanted to talk about the game, if anything. He probably would have appreciated questions on Toffoli or Andersson or Hanifin - the guys who made an impact. The point of part one of his answer was “you’re asking me about a kid who played a small role, so I’m giving you the barre minimum of what he did”. The point of part two was “there’s a lot of time for this kid to play and a lot more that he’s going to do that’s worthy of a real question”.

Sutter has his faults and he obviously has a reluctance to play kids, especially smaller ones. But his response wasn’t about that IMO. It was about coming off a big win and getting questions that weren’t really related to the win.

I read the media reaction first and was really ready to see Sutter be a total jack ass. I've been down on Sutter this year, but those comments are being way overblown.

I'm also shocked how all the media really jumped on him. I wonder if the sentiment within the organization is very sour on him and the media is picking up on it.

[GioforPM]

Watching the video actually grabbed the game sheet to get his stats and couldn’t find them for a second and IMO he actually didn’t have the number off the top of his head. Because it was a new number, I guess.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

A coach is here here to, stay with me now, coach. Not cheerlead.

That’s not self importance. That’s the definition of the position he’s qualified for and been given.

I never said he has to cheerlead. I never said that being self important doesnt mean he's not a coach.

Like I said it's not a bad thing for him to have an ego, I think its actually a job requirement.

[Vedder]

I look forward to more marginal Oiler and Canucks alumni weighing in on this important issue.

I trust that they want the best for the Flames organization and the player!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Ok fair but this is a 1st rounder playing his first game. If be played 30 minutes or 5 it really doesn't matter a lot of people are interested in seeing a 1st round prospect finally debut. The question was fair and prior to it he was asked about the team did he really need to be db about it?

There was zero need to be rude and disrespectful.

The honest answer was “he didn’t do much”. You’d prefer that?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

C'mon, it's the first NHL game for a first-round pick. They were always gonna ask what the coach thought. It's a story regardless.

Remember yesterday when he want on and on about Pelletier during an off day when Darryl is more open with them and the media changed the subject?