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View Poll Results: What are your thoughts on the Flames CalgaryNext presentation? (select multiple)
Get digging, I love it all! 259 37.27%
Too much tax money 125 17.99%
Too much ticket tax 54 7.77%
Need more parking 130 18.71%
I need more details, can't say at this time 200 28.78%
The city owns it? Great deal for Calgary 110 15.83%
Need to clean up this area anyway, its embarassing 179 25.76%
Needs a retractable roof 89 12.81%
Great idea but don't think it will fly with stake holders 69 9.93%
Why did it take 2 years to come up with this? 161 23.17%
Curious to see the city's response 194 27.91%
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:18 PM   #441
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yes. The city wants to remove the skate park and just lay a bunch of sod and make it an open green space from what I understand. But yes everything from the Science centre right to Pumphouse theater is the area in question for west village redevelopment.
Can anyone confirm/reject this? Bunk?

From what I can tell the West Village ARP doesn't touch Shaw, nor can I see a rationale whereby the city exchanges a well-used space for what would certainly be less used.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:40 PM   #442
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Can anyone confirm/reject this? Bunk?

From what I can tell the West Village ARP doesn't touch Shaw, nor can I see a rationale whereby the city exchanges a well-used space for what would certainly be less used.
It doesn't specifically say: but there's a huge section of the actual city of calgary plans that discusses the need for open parks and ssystems and blah blah blah.. all the diagrams show just an empty green space. They dont' show a skatepark..

http://www.calgary.ca/PDA/pd/Documen...illage-arp.pdf
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I stand corrected: "The function, viability, and diversity of Shaw Millennium Park should be maintained and protected. Any adjacent redevelopment impacting redesign of the park should be done in consultation with the various park user groups." From the city arp.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:34 PM   #444
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A glass box stadium woud fit right in with all our glass box skyscrapers.

(They're cool-shaped glass boxes, but still the trend away from diversity in colour and texture is not one I appreciate in today's architecture.)
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I wish the CFL could draw crowds like the NFL and Calgary could build an 80,000 seater adjacent to the 20,000 seater hockey rink.
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Yup, I recall reading that there was some strong opposition to the stadium. Was it generally supported in the end or did the local Council just push it through?
From my understanding it was forced through so the city could have a suitable venue for the rugby world cup. There was and continues to be plenty of opposition to it. Even four years later there are regular reports in the local paper about the drain the stadium has had on the city and region.

As flameswin pointed out though, the cost and population aren't really an issue for Calgary, though that being said, we (Calgary) could do so much better than this. Apart from the fancy roof, Forsyth Barr is a pretty bare bones facility on the inside. The end bleachers they use are like the temporary aluminum ones we see at McMahon for grey cup games.
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I wish the CFL could draw crowds like the NFL and Calgary could build an 80,000 seater adjacent to the 20,000 seater hockey rink.
80,000 would be perfect for when Calgary hosts the 2028 Summer Olympics.
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I wish the CFL could draw crowds like the NFL and Calgary could build an 80,000 seater adjacent to the 20,000 seater hockey rink.
If Canadian cities could draw 80k for football games, the CFL would be dead and NFL would be here in a heartbeat.
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So i took the cities WV ARP designs this afternoon and drew a little mock up of what I would do if I were the Flames.

Is the NHL switching to 3 on 3 on smaller ice? Your arena is a little small.
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Is there any way to move the CP railways or are those permanent?
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Is there any way to move the CP railways or are those permanent?
You can do anything if you have enough money.
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CP won't be moving their lines I would imagine.
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Keep in mind it's probably not to scale the area is a lot bigger than it looks on the cities. Model. Google earth it and see for yourself there's enough room for the footprint of a staples centre size building. Ofc all the rumors suggest it's going on the greyhound site but who knows with other development how this all would work. I guess we'll find out on tuesday!
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I received that same letter.

Everything that goes on will be available to see online. Definitely not taking time away from work to go see this.
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I received that same letter.

Everything that goes on will be available to see online. Definitely not taking time away from work to go see this.
This website was registered by a marketing company that does work for the Flames.

http://www.calgarynext.com
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This website was registered by a marketing company that does work for the Flames.

http://www.calgarynext.com
Interesting that Ken King is part of this company in some capacity - http://vinc.ca/calgary-video-production.php. Scroll down the page.
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Old 08-16-2015, 08:21 PM   #457
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Is there any way to move the CP railways or are those permanent?
Pipe dream, but it would be great to have the space for CT to use.
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That was very clearly stated in the invitation email. Perhaps you should have actually read it before inviting your other season ticket holder.
It was really more ambiguous than anything else

"Due to the limited seating and the significant interest in this presentation, these first sessions are for primary season ticket holders only (guests are not permitted) and your rsvp is non-transferable."

Since the two of use jointly own 2 season tickets, we are both, by definition, primary season ticket holders. It hardly seems fair that just because I get the emails to my email address I should get an invite and he should not.
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If Canadian cities could draw 80k for football games, the CFL would be dead and NFL would be here in a heartbeat.
Not likely. Canadian teams tend to be a negative draw at the gate in U.S. cities, and games involving Canadian teams are a total non-starter on American TV. Toronto has been trying for decades to get an NFL franchise, with no success. The NFL just isn't interested.
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Not likely. Canadian teams tend to be a negative draw at the gate in U.S. cities, and games involving Canadian teams are a total non-starter on American TV. Toronto has been trying for decades to get an NFL franchise, with no success. The NFL just isn't interested.
No one has committed to build a building in Toronto and they didn't have an owner will to outbid Pegula for the Bills.

Toronto doesn't have an NFL team because no one is willing to invest 3 billion to put one there.
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