CP Mafia 4 - The Unknown Host - Game Over!

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Maybe you should be more clear and less cryptic next time then, maybe you will have more success convincing me to switch my vote.

Not possible when the whole point of Option C) is to avoid making things obvious. It is inherent to the course of action I choose that I could not be overtly persuasive.

[devo22]

The way SebC has been playing this game is really ticking me off. At the moment I firmly believe you're town, because I highly doubt that a scum member would post like that, but man, your posting style is aggravating nonetheless.

[activeStick]

-----Dead Post-----

Crap!! Ah well, was looking forward to the Smuggler role but didn't even get a chance to hide anyone this game! Good game everyone, but sheesh that was way too short. Watch out for the group that pushed to lynch one of your only Townspersons with a power!!

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by SebC

Newsflash, I'm not dumb.

Thanks, that clears up some of my suspicions.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by SebC

Not possible when the whole point of Option C) is to avoid making things obvious. It is inherent to the course of action I choose that I could not be overtly persuasive.

Here's the thing, this is a team game but you're playing it like its SebC vs everyone.

You don't have to put every thought you have out there but some of the condescending posts you have been doing are not acceptable.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Here's the thing, this is a team game but you're playing it like its SebC vs everyone.

Ironic, given the lack of trust I'm getting from my teammates that I know what I'm doing with my playstyle.

[GirlySports]

It got really muddled at the end there. Hard to predict out of the voters who purposely voted him out cause even the hosts would not have known he was the smuggler.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by SebC

Ironic, given the lack of trust I'm getting from my teammates that I know what I'm doing with my playstyle.

What's ironic is you continually going on about "noise" and almost all you have been doing is creating "noise".

Anyway I'm done engaging you, enjoy playing your game however you want. Hopefully sooner rather than later you will realise we want and need your input to succeed.

[Peanut]

Seb being cryptic is his perogative, though. I'm not sure I understand why it seems to be rubbing people the wrong way. I don't think his being cryptic is hurting us, is it? Or does it seem scummy to some of you? I don't get a scummy vibe from the posting style, more just cagey townperson.

[Oling_Roachinen]

I got spore, I gave it to GirlySports. Here's my reasoning and short list:

GirlySports - I disagree with her thoughts on the spore. I don't see it as a huge deal sending it back to the scum if it means a night off without it. It felt like she was lurking and if not for an error in vote counting may not have shown herself at all so close to a lynch where she was in the crossfire. I remember hiding in the bushes with her during deadlines last game...

It's hard to call her out for not voting for the Smuggler, but with both of them around 6ish votes and her not voting for ActiveStick meant a tie at the end would give her the hammer to save herself. Her not being concerned with saving herself by voting ActiveStick is either really unselfish townplay (in which case I'm really sorry Girly) or she wasn't so worried because she had a couple friends lurking around that could change the vote if needed. I think a scum cardflip from her would give the most information to go back and see why she didn't feel the need to save herself.

Timbo - No one really seemed to be on board with his posting style change that I noticed, or at least think I did. He is my top choice for scum, but he's not the town's top choice. From being so carefree last game to looking like he's being extra careful with his wording, I mean it's flimsy evidence at best but if we're going gut/instinct he's my guy.

SebC - I do think he's a smart guy, but maybe he's playing a little too deep for this town's own good. There's a couple things that bugged me. The "no noise" while he's posting cryptically despite the chance of him being turned at any night. Or already being scum and giving information to potential turned down the road. In other circumstances not "pulling the thread" about the Smuggler would make sense but he was about to be lynched and it was obvious what was being insinuated. I think that blame mostly falls on ActiveStick for posting and leaving like he did though. I didn't give SebC the spore because he was quick to vote GirlySports after ActiveStick's 'reveal,' at least it appeared he tried to prevent his lynch.

Dissentowner - For the reason I had voted for him, he seemed to be inconspicuous, but it's also first day.

Lego Man - Pretty obvious why, 4 posts. Probably should have just given him the spore and got rid of it voting out an inactive player but.

[SebC]

Good enough for me.

Vote: GirlySports

[SebC]

unvote

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by SebC

Option B) He might be smuggler, see if we can make him reveal more (what exactly would you get, on day 1?)

(Oling_Roachinen wanted to "pull the thread", thanked by Hockeyguy15.)

You're certainly misconstruing the intention. That post was made 24 minutes before he would be lynched, ActiveStick's insinuation was pretty obvious in his post but to make it and run so close to the lynch was just a poor play. I want to assume ActiveStick was busy but the "I'm not going to say I'm Smuggler but I'm pretty much saying I'm Smuggler" seemed more scum like.

I think you're thinking you're smarter than most people and it's not helping us.

[Peanut]

So... How do we know you aren't turned from the spore?

[Hockeyguy15]

So Girly, I assume you didn't turn?

I guess the questions are do we assume Oling is being truthful? If we do think he is being truthful, do we lynch Girly or let the agent deal with her?

I think Oling is telling the truth, and I think we should let the agent investigate her at night. If she has turned then the agent kills her and the hosts get the spore back. If she hasn't turned then the agent doesn't kill her and we find out who she give the spore to the next day.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Peanut

So... How do we know you aren't turned from the spore?

If he was turned he is now on the Hosts team. Why would he broadcast that he had the spore if he was turned?

[SebC]

^ If anyone's wondering what that about, I momentarily forgot about lynching late, which I still believe is good strategy.

Yep, despite my intentions, it's noise.

[Peanut]

^^ my question is to Oling, in case that wasn't obvious.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

If he was turned he is now on the Hosts team. Why would he broadcast that he had the spore if he was turned?

To make us think he wasn't turned, was my thought. Maybe the agent should investigate Oling?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I think Oling is telling the truth, and I think we should let the agent investigate her at night. If she has turned then the agent kills her and the hosts get the spore back. If she hasn't turned then the agent doesn't kill her and we find out who she give the spore to the next day.

No, if she has turned she sends spore to someone, and then the agent kills her. I'm pretty sure that's the way it works.

So a lynch would get rid of the spore tonight, an agent check wouldn't.