Sam Bennett/Kingston Frontenacs discussion

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I get being pissed off and I know he's young, but that is not the type of attitude I like to hear about. Hopefully it was an isolated incident.
(not dumping on the kid, but always hold much more respect for those that can be professional and isolate their emotions once outside the rink)

Maybe he really is the next Gilmour. He wasn't known for being the most approachable guy either (something I witnessed first hand before).

Edit: I don't think a hockey player is obligated to entertain fans with conversation any way. I wouldn't hold it against any of them for wanting privacy.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

That's great and all.. but McDavid is averaging 2.6 PPG while Bennett is at 2.14... big difference.

He is just warming up!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

That's great and all.. but McDavid is averaging 2.6 PPG while Bennett is at 2.14... big difference.

I've no doubt McDavid is better, but in the latter's defence, he hadn't played a real game since last season and coming off surgery. He's putting up 2.14 while rusty. I didn't expect it.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

That's great and all.. but McDavid is averaging 2.6 PPG while Bennett is at 2.14... big difference.

McDavid has been playing all season and Bennett's sample size is 7 games. That is indeed a big difference; but perhaps not the difference you had in mind.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I get being pissed off and I know he's young, but that is not the type of attitude I like to hear about. Hopefully it was an isolated incident.
(not dumping on the kid, but always hold much more respect for those that can be professional and isolate their emotions once outside the rink)

My girlfriend and I ran into Sam when we were out one night. He took the time to talk to us for a bit and took pictures with us. So ya I think he was just pissed off. He seemed like a genuinely nice guy when I talked to him

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

It's all about how you react to it. Bennett has gone back to the OHL and has 15 points in 7 games so far. Baertschi? Way too inconsistent.

Yes, because back going to Junior after a short time with the Flames and putting up points wasn't something Baertschi ever did.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

McDavid has been playing all season and Bennett's sample size is 7 games. That is indeed a big difference; but perhaps not the difference you had in mind.

I'd assume the list of people who put up 2.15 PPG over 7 games is a lot longer than the list of people who up 2.6 PPG over 40 or whatever McDavid's played.

EDIT: to clarify - I like Bennett, but let's not get crazy.

[Fl4me5]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I get being pissed off and I know he's young, but that is not the type of attitude I like to hear about. Hopefully it was an isolated incident.
(not dumping on the kid, but always hold much more respect for those that can be professional and isolate their emotions once outside the rink)

Perhaps my choice of words could have been better, he did not do it in a rude way whatsoever, he just didnt want to be bothered in an airport with dozens of peering eyes. It was obviously due to the situation, I don't think it reflects his attitude whatsoever, if anything it just shows how much the decision affected him mentally. Based on his production lately, he's obviously using that anger and disappointment to his advantage.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I'd assume the list of people who put up 2.15 PPG over 7 games is a lot longer than the list of people who up 2.6 PPG over 40 or whatever McDavid's played.

EDIT: to clarify - I like Bennett, but let's not get crazy.

True. It's possible that Bennett will score even more now that he's scraped the rust off his skates. Whether he does or not, he won't have a big enough sample size this season to justify any conclusions one way or the other.

To me, the only thing Bennett has proved by scoring those 15 points is that the surgery hasn't hurt his game. I don't recall anybody saying he was in McDavid's class.

But you know, 100% of Bennett is a hell of a consolation prize for giving up a 20% chance of McDavid.

[Obsidian]

I know what it's like to have that ultra-competitive nature that Bennett has. It really drives you. And that makes him scary with his skillset. 7 games is still a small sample, but wouldn't be surprised if he continues through season's end producing near or at a McDavid rate.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I'd assume the list of people who put up 2.15 PPG over 7 games is a lot longer than the list of people who up 2.6 PPG over 40 or whatever McDavid's played.

EDIT: to clarify - I like Bennett, but let's not get crazy.

It's more than the points. It's him single hand-idly making Kingston a playoff team. If you listen to the play-by-play of a Kingston game all you here is Bennett every shift. On a stacked team he'd be producing even more.

Bennett has been dynamite in these 7 games and has mentioned that his timing isn't even back yet. And his game is so much more than just points.

I have a full on rager at work just thinking about him on the Flames next season (or this playoff).

[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by Igster

Can you imagine the Flames in the playoffs, Bennett called up and becomes a difference maker?

Yeah...I know it's a long shot but still...that would be an awesome story.

Yeah I can.

Monahan
Backlund
Bennett
Stajan

Down the middle vs the Nucks, with Bennett's line up against Horvat's line, hounding the puck and dominating. And the first shift that Desjardins gets the Sedins out when Sam is still on the ice, he hammers Daniel into his own bench, then proceeds to set up a goal.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

It's more than the points. It's him single hand-idly making Kingston a playoff team. If you listen to the play-by-play of a Kingston game all you here is Bennett every shift. On a stacked team he'd be producing even more.

Bennett has been dynamite in these 7 games and has mentioned that his timing isn't even back yet. And his game is so much more than just points.

I have a full on rager at work just thinking about him on the Flames next season (or this playoff).

tmi dude.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

That's great and all.. but McDavid is averaging 2.6 PPG while Bennett is at 2.14... big difference.

Point being Mcdavid is the second coming of jesus Gretzky.

If he's our Toews to Pittsburghs Crosby, I'd consider that to be a game changer player.

[polak]

McDavid hype is starting to get annoying.

He could be Crosby or Gretzky or he could just as easily be Wickenheiser or Daigle. Lets see what he does in the big leagues against grown ups and not 16 year olds before we crown him king of the NHL. Some of the players he's playing against need a ride to the rink from mom still for godsake

If he goes to the Oilers, I would 100% not be surprised if he turned out like the latter two fyi.

(Same goes for all Junior players. I hate hyping prospects that play in the CHL.)

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by polak

McDavid hype is starting to get annoying.

He could be Crosby or Gretzky or he could just as easily be Wickenheiser or Daigle. Lets see what he does in the big leagues against grown ups and not 16 year olds before we crown him king of the NHL. Some of the players he's playing against need a ride to the rink from mom still for godsake

If he goes to the Oilers, I would 100% not be surprised if he turned out like the latter two fyi.

(Same goes for all Junior players. I hate hyping prospects that play in the CHL.)

How many Daigle/Wickenheisers have there been in the last 10 years? Seems to me the chances of guys busting at the very top end of the draft has steadily decreased in the last 20 years. I've been watching drafts pretty closely since the mid 90's and I've noticed this.

Have you seen McDavid? This guy deserves a lot of hype. He has ridiculous skill, ridiculous speed and does it all. Some of the most explosive skating and ability I've seen from a draft eligible player. There's a reason he gets the comparisons he does and we don't need to debbie downer him.

[Tyler]

[polak]

There's only been one sure-fire generational talent "next Gretzky" hyped prospect since Daigle... The pattern would dictate that it's his turn to bust? Haha.

Hey, if he ends up in the East then I'm all for it. I hope we get a new Crosby. If he goes too the west, I hope he scrapes out a nice living as a decent player but, in the end, sucks

(I can't have illwishes towards a kid)

[Street Pharmacist]

Who was the last player to post those kinds of numbers? Honest question I don't know the answer to

[polak]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Who was the last player to post those kinds of numbers? Honest question I don't know the answer to

Daigle had a 2.49 or something like that PPG average in his best season.