[Rumour] Kipper is Retiring

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

People can smoke all they like, that is their business. However, when I'm paying good money to see an athlete perform, I expect them to be in the best possible shape that they can be. Is it unreasonable to for me to expect an athlete who makes millions of dollars not to intentionally harm his own level of fitness?

Yes, and annoying.

[ClubFlames]

Still waiting for proof that Kipper never worked out.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

People can smoke all they like, that is their business. However, when I'm paying good money to see an athlete perform, I expect them to be in the best possible shape that they can be. Is it unreasonable to for me to expect an athlete who makes millions of dollars not to intentionally harm his own level of fitness?

Yes it is. As long as they can perform at the same level as their talent level, then they can do whatever they want.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

Still waiting for proof that Kipper never worked out.

i think its best if we just stop bumping this thread... and i'm not sure why i keep on clicking on this thread either, knowing its just one guy being upset about smoking

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

People can smoke all they like, that is their business. However, when I'm paying good money to see an athlete perform, I expect them to be in the best possible shape that they can be. Is it unreasonable to for me to expect an athlete who makes millions of dollars not to intentionally harm his own level of fitness?

You seem to have this whole thing about smoking. Are you going to be pissed when they drink the night before?

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I'm very surprised that some posters are basically throwing Kipper under the bus for a bad habit. The guy nearly-singlehandedly made the Flames competitive again. I can't stand how some people seem to so easily forget what guys like Iginla and Kiprusoff have done for the franchise.

1 poster is throwing him under the bus for a bad habit.

Some others like myself don't want him back, but it has nothing to do with his smoking.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Is it unreasonable to for me to expect an athlete who makes millions of dollars not to intentionally harm his own level of fitness?

Yes.

Especially when that athlete repeatedly showed that he was at the top of his sport and that fitness was never a concern for him.

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by moon

Yes.

Especially when that athlete repeatedly showed that he was at the top of his sport and that fitness was never a concern for him.

Was he at the top of his sport last season when he posted a .882 save %?

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Was he at the top of his sport last season when he posted a .882 save %?

Maybe that was due to the fact we had a crap team or he missed time with injury or his age?

Was his smoking a concern when he won the Vezina? Nope, I don't think so.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Was he at the top of his sport last season when he posted a .882 save %?

Nope but again you have shown 0 proof to indicate that had anything to do with smoking. He didn't look tired and slow out there he looked poor. You don;t have a right to guys having poor seasons.

Not sure why you argue one thing (smoking) and then bring up another thing (his poor play this year) when called out.

Nobody is arguing that he had a good year last year so stop bringing it up as though people are.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Was he at the top of his sport last season when he posted a .882 save %?

He was smoking when he won a Vezina as well. Ridiculous.

His poor start to last year was the fact that he didn't have the usual buildup and offseason routine. He got hurt what, 10 games in? A lot of players got tweaks due to not being able to manage their training schedule with the extended lockout.

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by browna

He was smoking when he won a Vezina as well. Ridiculous.

His poor start to last year was the fact that he didn't have the usual buildup and offseason routine. He got hurt what, 10 games in? A lot of players got tweaks due to not being able to manage their training schedule with the extended lockout.

Provide proof that he was smoking the year he won the Vezina.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

People can smoke all they like, that is their business. However, when I'm paying good money to see an athlete perform, I expect them to be in the best possible shape that they can be. Is it unreasonable to for me to expect an athlete who makes millions of dollars not to intentionally harm his own level of fitness?

Then feel free to not pay the money and not watch them. Simple.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Provide proof that he was smoking the year he won the Vezina.

He has been a smoker ever since he was traded to Calgary. Back when you could smoke in bars he was always with a smoke.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Provide proof that he was smoking the year he won the Vezina.

Provide proof he never worked out and that his performance dipped last year solely due to the fact he smokes.

[MissTeeks]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

He has been a smoker ever since he was traded to Calgary. Back when you could smoke in bars he was always with a smoke.

He obviously hasn't seen the Kipper and Phaneuf in the back of Cowboys photo that used to get posted all the time.

[tvp2003]

Please stop already -- this thread is becoming hot garbage.

[$ven27]

Leave the troll alone please.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Please stop already -- this thread is becoming hot garbage.

Just like most other threads from August til now..

[JiriHrdina]

I love it when out of the blue someone drives the crazy bus head-long into an entire thread. This thread was perfectly normal for 20 pages and then BOOM - CRAAAZEEEEE!!!!