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Old 06-10-2013, 08:46 PM   #441
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This is what Microsoft gets for completely ignoring the consumer. They don't know what people want.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:46 PM   #442
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Hell, even if they come in at 499 Sony is in a good spot.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:46 PM   #443
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They are but not much.
That's Plus... optional to play online.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:46 PM   #444
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Looks like Sony sneaking in PS Plus being necessary for playing online now for PS4.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:46 PM   #445
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They are but not much.
Wrong, it's a pretty much insurmountable victory right now for Sony. Sorry, unless you mean for online charges. Wasn't sure which part you were replying too.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:47 PM   #446
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They are but not much.
I think it's only PSN Plus that costs money. Normal PSN is still free?
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Driveclub for free as a plus member? That is a $60 game anyways.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:47 PM   #448
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Looks like the twitter and online assault about DRM had an effect.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:47 PM   #449
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Wrong, it's a pretty much insurmountable victory right now for Sony.
That's kind of a fanboy thing to say isn't it? It's not like the rest of their show blew anyone away in fact it's a bit of a letdown.
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Looks like you need psn+ to play online for ps4
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:48 PM   #451
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So much for robaur telling us Sony would have the same restrictions.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:48 PM   #452
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Not much for game reveals yet, but PS3 had a poor launch lineup as well. I expect we won't see any of the top tier games/exclusives until 2014.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:49 PM   #453
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Thing is, Microsoft made themselves vulnerable. Sony took advantage.

Microsoft looks ridiculously foolish.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:50 PM   #454
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Honestly though PS+ is worth it, even if they force you to buy it for online now.

Sony's shoe only seems weak since they showed so many games at the PS4 announcement.

If Infamous, Killzone, Knack, etc were all shown for the first time tonight it would have been much more impactful.

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That's kind of a fanboy thing to say isn't it? It's not like the rest of their show blew anyone away in fact it's a bit of a letdown.
Well for me my two biggest concerns were the question of used gaming, and needing to be online every day. That and needing to pay for online services. Sony seems to have resolved all those issues, unless they do start charging for online services eventually (not a fan of that; free games or otherwise).
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Uhoh, not more crashing!
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:53 PM   #457
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Sony still needs a lower price point than MS and some more first party exclusives (at launch hopefully) for me to consider buying a PS4 right away.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:53 PM   #458
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Sounds like Online MP may indeed need PS+.

I will try to see if I can scoop up a fist full of free cards during SDCC like last time. Even if it is only a free month.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:55 PM   #459
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That's unfortunate, but finding ways to get cheap cards/monthly subscriptions is cheap enough I suppose. Just hate having to pay for a service I only use every so often.
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