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[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

It's beginning to get quite pathetic that the Conservative or Republican side of the argument use: "Damn loser hippies", as their only line of defense. I'm glad intelligent people, like Bill Maher, changed his tune after visiting occupy DC. It shows hope.

The police video's are going to anger the population in Oakland and the world, but it is important that this stays peaceful, or it will be over.

The video's should be enough to sue the Dept. and maybe those violent officers will lose their jobs, and homes. So they can see what it's like. Well there will always be work in home security...

I think the first part of your quote is a bit of garbage to be honest. And I do think you need to separate out the actual occupy wallstreet from the for example occupy Calgary. The ones in Calgary for example are far more directionless and clueless then the damn dirty hippies and the damn dirty hippies did a lot more acid in their day. And I tend to think that Bill Maher thinks he's a brilliant guy, I think he's an arrogant close minded blowhard.

The police video is really upsetting and I don't like to see it, while its not on the level of Kent State for example, this is this centuries Gates LA Riots level police scandal and the fact that it was caught on video and the Oakland police were caught in a lie should hopefully trigger a pretty heavy investigation and hopefully charges.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think he's an arrogant close minded blowhard.

Odd. I think that of some of the posters here.

As for the video, that is the reason so many activists carry them now. And it's so much easier now that cell phones can record video. When the G8 was in Halifax, the police confiscated every camcorder they could get their hands on. The only ones that didn't get confiscated were those from people that looked like they were from a TV news broadcast, from say CTV. Which is the only reason mine didn't get taken.

[THE SCUD]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Do you?

Yes, I own a nice tent that's currently #occupying Prince's Island Park. I'd post more but I have a Frisbee tourny to get to and a generic protest to spend 30 minutes at before I get high again.

[CaptainCrunch]

Bizarre story from Occcupy New York

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...0UTVU.facebook

[valo403]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Bizarre story from Occcupy New York

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...0UTVU.facebook

Kind of ironic that the group is already splintering along what are essentially class lines.

[Regular_John]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Bizarre story from Occcupy New York

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...0UTVU.facebook

"Some protesters threatened that the high-end meals could be cut off completely if the vagrants and criminals don’t disperse."

Squatters trying to disperse squatters? The irony, it burns.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

It's beginning to get quite pathetic that the Conservative or Republican side of the argument use: "Damn loser hippies", as their only line of defense. I'm glad intelligent people, like Bill Maher, changed his tune after visiting occupy DC. It shows hope.

The police video's are going to anger the population in Oakland and the world, but it is important that this stays peaceful, or it will be over.

The video's should be enough to sue the Dept. and maybe those violent officers will lose their jobs, and homes. So they can see what it's like. Well there will always be work in home security...

Which is why I think the police have to very careful not to incite the violence.

[CaptainCrunch]

1) There were a couple of things that are bugging me and maybe someone closer to this can clarify

For three days beginning tomorrow, the cooks will serve only brown rice and other spartan grub instead of the usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_hell_kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL#ixzz1 c0p7FTY2

Who's paying for this food, and if its donated dollars couldn't the money be spent in a better way. Frankly it sounds like their meal menus are better then anything that I spend money on.

2) Wouldn't the homeless and downtrodden be part of the 99%? Aren't they what these protests are all about?

3) I'm really confused now by the demographic that wants to be represented here, are they pissed off because they're no longer loading the slurpee machine with a 96 Southern Rhone Chateauneuf du Pape, but are substituting the 2002 instead.

They could feed a lot more people especially the homeless with the peanut butter and jelly then they could with fairly elaberate meals.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by jaydorn

"Some protesters threatened that the high-end meals could be cut off completely if the vagrants and criminals don’t disperse."

Squatters trying to disperse squatters? The irony, it burns.

What the arogant middle class #######s don't realize is their camp is displacing a bunch of real victims of the system from where they would sleep and make a meagre living begging and washing car windows.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

What the arogant middle class #######s don't realize is their camp is displacing a bunch of real victims of the system from where they would sleep and make a meagre living begging and washing car windows.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

1) There were a couple of things that are bugging me and maybe someone closer to this can clarify



Who's paying for this food, and if its donated dollars couldn't the money be spent in a better way. Frankly it sounds like their meal menus are better then anything that I spend money on.

2) Wouldn't the homeless and downtrodden be part of the 99%? Aren't they what these protests are all about?

3) I'm really confused now by the demographic that wants to be represented here, are they pissed off because they're no longer loading the slurpee machine with a 96 Southern Rhone Chateauneuf du Pape, but are substituting the 2002 instead.

They could feed a lot more people especially the homeless with the peanut butter and jelly then they could with fairly elaberate meals.

I was always of the opinion they were misguided idiots before, now I am at the 'spoilt selfish #######s that need a good thrashing' stage.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Absoloutly, many years ago my lodge did a fundraiser on a high traffic corner, washed car windows and asked for donations for our extended health facility, got some good press as well. But we also displaced 3 regulars that made a living on the corner and so bought them breakfast and gave them 20 dollars each.

I might not approve of window washers or beggers but that is their life and they rely on that space and the money they can glean from it.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I was always of the opinion they were misguided idiots before, now I am at the 'spoilt selfish #######s that need a good thrashing' stage.

From doing some quick reading, it sounds like they're getting donations of food either from local vendors or cash that they use to buy food.

To me the menu and the concept that they don't want to feed the homeless that have congregated is kinda in-apporiate

I've heard the term "Let them eat cake" spouted on line by some of the occupy protestors when it comes to the division of rich and poor.

Now it sounds like the Occupy Wall Street squatters are literally saying the same thing about the poor.

It goes back to the question of who are they protesting for?

Clearly it sounds like its not for the whole 99%, maybe they need to change ther slogan to. We are the 66%

[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

1) There were a couple of things that are bugging me and maybe someone closer to this can clarify

Who's paying for this food, and if its donated dollars couldn't the money be spent in a better way. Frankly it sounds like their meal menus are better then anything that I spend money on.

2) Wouldn't the homeless and downtrodden be part of the 99%? Aren't they what these protests are all about?

3) I'm really confused now by the demographic that wants to be represented here, are they pissed off because they're no longer loading the slurpee machine with a 96 Southern Rhone Chateauneuf du Pape, but are substituting the 2002 instead.

I can't speaks directly for the New York stuff, but here's what I've observed or heard from first hand looks of whats going on in DC.

1) In DC and New York, they've received dozens of donations from local organic farmers, local restaurants and union groups, people who are on side with what the protestors stand for. Many people who are sympathetic or don't want to be there occupying 24/7 will donate food, as away of helping out without. Again, it's hard to fathom but not everyone on the entire planet thinks it's a waste of time. Similar to not everyone on the entire planet thinks the tea party is a waste of time.

2) The DC occupy group doesn't seam to have the same issues with the homeless population that usually inhabit McPherson Square, it's helped bring more attention to the situation.

Can't vouch for the New York one as I don't have first hand experience, but it seams like the real question is about public safety and the criminal element.

I don't know, but I'd be curious to see more information come out and not just from the NY Post.

3) Where can I buy this slurpee machine that you speak of. It sounds fantastic.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by c.t.ner

I can't speaks directly for the New York stuff, but here's what I've observed or heard from first hand looks of whats going on in DC.

1) In DC and New York, they've received dozens of donations from local organic farmers, local restaurants and union groups, people who are on side with what the protestors stand for. Many people who are sympathetic or don't want to be there occupying 24/7 will donate food, as away of helping out without. Again, it's hard to fathom but not everyone on the entire planet thinks it's a waste of time. Similar to not everyone on the entire planet thinks the tea party is a waste of time.

2) The DC occupy group doesn't seam to have the same issues with the homeless population that usually inhabit McPherson Square, it's helped bring more attention to the situation.

Can't vouch for the New York one as I don't have first hand experience, but it seams like the real question is about public safety and the criminal element.

I don't know, but I'd be curious to see more information come out and not just from the NY Post.

3) Where can I buy this slurpee machine that you speak of. It sounds fantastic.

Patent pending, you didn't hear a thing.

And if it is truly donated by the farmers, then maybe they should be asking to replace it with cash donations so that they can feed more of the hopeless.

I get the public safety issues and crime elements, but they were talking about the Calgary group downtown today and they mentioned that there is a criminal element sneaking into it and its not really the poor and downtrodden as much as the middle class and bored.

[Muta]

I bet all these protestors will be voting for Ron Paul in the Republican nomination, if they're registered. This isn't a bad thing, either. The guy has been ideologically consistent for years and has actual, tangible ideas to turn the economy around. I'm following him closely, and he seems to be getting an underground revolution happening that's supporting him. He's addressing what the protestors are griping about, and the guy is highly intelligent to boot, too.

[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by Muta

I bet all these protestors will be voting for Ron Paul in the Republican nomination, if they're registered. This isn't a bad thing, either. The guy has been ideologically consistent for years and has actual, tangible ideas to turn the economy around. I'm following him closely, and he seems to be getting an underground revolution happening that's supporting him. He's addressing what the protestors are griping about, and the guy is highly intelligent to boot, too.

The funny thing is that at the MacPherson OccupyDC camp, some one has set up a Ron Paul Tent and is representing Ron Paul there (I don't know if that's approved by the Ron Paul campaign). I don't know if that's the overall view of the entire OccupyDC camp, but it is neat to see that differing opinions are encouraged.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by c.t.ner

The funny thing is that at the MacPherson OccupyDC camp, some one has set up a Ron Paul Tent and is representing Ron Paul there (I don't know if that's approved by the Ron Paul campaign). I don't know if that's the overall view of the entire OccupyDC camp, but it is neat to see that differing opinions are encouraged.

Definitely interesting. I really like the guy's message. He's not a corporate robot on stage at the debates. He actually addresses things other candidates are afraid to talk about. He supports ending the US presence in Iraq because it's costing lives and money unecessarily, and pretty much enidng any US military presence overseas that is costing the US money unecessarily. His reasoning equates to 'how can you support other people around the world if you can't even support yourself?' And this is the poo that America sits right in today. And it's completely true.

He's against nation-building, and wants to focus the military budget for homeland purposes only. He also wants to end the Federal Reserve, which the US has used to just print more and more money to pay for things. He also predicted the 2008 economic collapse, five years before it happened. He's also been right on a host of other economic predictions since the 1980's. Dude knows his #####, that's for sure.

In my opinion, this guy is way ahead of his time, and this is why Americans aren't ready to vote for him yet... but his message is starting to resonate with dissatisfied citizens and other politicians as well, and these Occupy movements are a result of policies he's been fighting to change for so long.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Here are some corporations that need to pay... These are the problem, not "ALL Corporations"

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/n...4-a27f59d70de5

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings. (Source: Exxon Mobil's 2009 shareholder report filed with the SEC here.)
2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion. (Source: Forbes.com here, ProPublica here and Treasury here.)

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Here are some corporations that need to pay... These are the problem, not "ALL Corporations"

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/n...4-a27f59d70de5

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings. (Source: Exxon Mobil's 2009 shareholder report filed with the SEC here.)
2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion. (Source: Forbes.com here, ProPublica here and Treasury here.)

I dont' understand the problem. How much do you propose exxon pays? why? What about BOA?