The Matthew Tkachuk contract negotiations

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Someone offers him $10 million/ year and he comes back with “better make it $9 M or Flames won’t match”? Have some more coffee because you know that is preposterous.

Well, duh. Of course he is not doing that, and I think it is fairly obvious that that is not what I am suggesting.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Well if this is true, it will have a great big effect on Tkachuks negotiations.(rumored to be 12.5 per)

As should those shoes...i think we need to get MT to the Alberta Boot Company...stat!!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1147162240019251202

Originally Posted by Monahammer

This is clearly meant to infer the Islanders IMO. The history being Johnny T.

It would be terrible if it were Colorado though, we do not need that team to get any more young talent. + they still have to sign Rantanen.

I am just now listening to TSN radio. There are rumoured to be upwards of four teams in serious pursuit of Mitchell Marner, including both Montreal and NYI. Montreal is also believed to be setting their sights on Patrik Laine as another RFA target.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Well, duh. Of course he is not doing that, and I think it is fairly obvious that that is not what I am suggesting.

You said he will only sign an offer sheet that he knows Calgary would match. Which does not make sense.

He will only sign an offer sheet that he will want to play for. Period.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I am just now listening to TSN radio. There are rumoured to be upwards of four teams in serious pursuit of Mitchell Marner, including both Montreal and NYI. Montreal is also believed to be setting their sights on Patrik Laine as another RFA target.

Honestly if I'm the Jets and the compensation is 4 first round picks I take that every day but being the Habs it will probably be a silly offer like the Carolina one.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Honestly if I'm the Jets and the compensation is 4 first round picks I take that every day but being the Habs it will probably be a silly offer like the Carolina one.

While I think an offer sheet for Marner will almost certainly be in the top compensation range, I am MUCH less convinced that Laine will get anything close to that.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You said he will only sign an offer sheet that he knows Calgary would match. Which does not make sense.

Explain.

He will only sign an offer sheet that he will want to play for. Period.

I agree, and that does not in any way contradict my original conjecture.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

While I think an offer sheet for Marner will almost certainly be in the top compensation range, I am MUCH less convinced that Laine will get anything close to that.

I agree as I simply don't think he's worth that and if the Habs weren't going to give up more than a single first round pick for Aho I can't see them going to the next level and offering two first round picks for a player that isn't as good.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

While I think an offer sheet for Marner will almost certainly be in the top compensation range, I am MUCH less convinced that Laine will get anything close to that.

Yeah if I am a GM, Im staying away from him after seeing last season. Not that he wont likely start producing again, but because of the small risk he wont and the giant salary it would take to get him to sign an OS. He is very much a one-dimensional guy (and one of the best at that dimension) but im not sure you can hitch your wagon to those types in the cap world and expect sustained success.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I agree as I simply don't think he's worth that and if the Habs weren't going to give up more than a single first round pick for Aho I can't see them going to the next level and offering two first round picks for a player that isn't as good.

I agree. I don't think they would, but I also don't think that in any way prevents them from signing this particular player.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I agree. I don't think they would, but I also don't think that in any way prevents them from signing this particular player.

I can see the Habs giving it another kick at the can with the same offer for Laine in hopes the Jets don't want to or have issues coming up with all the bonus money up front.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeah if I am a GM, Im staying away from him after seeing last season. Not that he wont likely start producing again, but because of the small risk he wont and the giant salary it would take to get him to sign an OS. He is very much a one-dimensional guy (and one of the best at that dimension) but im not sure you can hitch your wagon to those types in the cap world and expect sustained success.

I think the Aho deal demonstrates a couple of things here: First, it looks very much to me like players are keen to use these as leverage points to get what they want from their team—this is essentially what Aho did. Second, this means that it won't necessarily require a massive overpayment to convince a player to sign an offer sheet in the first place. Depending upon the player, that could mean signing a deal that is better than what is being offered by the rights-holding team, but one that he also feels confident will be matched.

It will obviously be different for every player, but I think we are seeing a more variable usage of these by players as a negotiating tool.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I can see the Habs giving it another kick at the can with the same offer for Laine in hopes the Jets don't want to or have issues coming up with all the bonus money up front.

It will be as futile as the Aho offer.

The Jets dont have the revenue that other teams do, but that does not make then broke.

Chipman has pretty deep freakin pockets.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No. He just doesn't sign it.


Who ever said anything about negotiating an offer sheet in the Flames favour?

Can somebody catch me up...why is Chucky “not signing” an offer sheet with another team that’s in excess of what the Flames could match?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Can somebody catch me up...why is Chucky “not signing” an offer sheet with another team that’s in excess of what the Flames could match?

The thought here is that he wants to play hockey for the Calgary Flames.

[CanadaMatt]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The thought here is that he wants to play hockey for the Calgary Flames.

Oh, I see. Not sure that’s a given at this stage but I don’t know for sure either way . Sorry for the interruption, carry on...

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Explain.


I agree, and that does not in any way contradict my original conjecture.

You said he will only sign an offer sheet that he is sure the Flames will match. How is that logical?

Faced with two offer sheets, one for $8 million x 5 years, one for $9 million x 5 years. And he believes Flames will match the former and not the latter.

Please support your argument that he will only sign the first offer sheet.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No. He just doesn't sign it.


Who ever said anything about negotiating an offer sheet in the Flames favour?

If someone offers him $10M per season, he’ll sign it.


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[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If someone offers him $10M per season, he’ll sign it.


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You know this for a fact do you?

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

You know this for a fact do you?

Yes, I talked to him at the Orange Julius stand.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

You know this for a fact do you?

You seem to know for a fact that he won’t.


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