2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think Lehner is a top priority for VGK. Meaning, they will do whatever they can to sign him, and then move out necessary players in order to conform with the cap. If the Knights are making a choice between their goalies this off-season, they will choose to move on from Fleury.

Doesn't mean they are Lehner's first choice. He is a UFA. No doubt that vegas will make him a big offer but perhaps he's got his eyes on different markets.

[Toonage]

Regarding Lehner - Treliving has had the opportunity to acquire him twice as a UFA, once when the Flames were in the market for a goalie and likely for much cheaper than he is making now.

Each time he passed over him for whatever reason. Maybe never even considered him? Who knows. Certainly seems like Tre isn't interested in Lehner.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Doesn't mean they are Lehner's first choice. He is a UFA. No doubt that vegas will make him a big offer but perhaps he's got his eyes on different markets.

Perhaps, but I would be surprised. I sure don't see him making the switch to a different market unless someone else is prepared to significantly overpay. VGK looks like a perfect landing spot for him.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Regarding Lehner - Treliving has had the opportunity to acquire him twice as a UFA, once when the Flames were in the market for a goalie and likely for much cheaper than he is making now.

Each time he passed over him for whatever reason. Maybe never even considered him? Who knows. Certainly seems like Tre isn't interested in Lehner.

Or Lehner wasn't interested in Calgary? That's also a possibility.

[Toonage]

Entirely possible. Just seems like the two would find each other. One guy wants term, one team wants (or needs) stability. Still, he's been available and for whatever reason isn't here. So we can probably close the door on hoping he'll end up with the Flames IMO

Especially now, as noted above, his asking price is probably significantly higher than it would have been otherwise

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by AC

Or Lehner wasn't interested in Calgary? That's also a possibility.

Honestly could see Lehner trying to avoid the pressures of a Canadian market. He's dealt with it as the highly touted prospect in Ottawa, so he knows what it brings.

As a guy who has been very open with his substance abuse and mental health issues he's probably very strategic when he's picking teams to not put himself in high pressure markets that could be all over him publicly.

[mrchristy31]

Going completely off the board.

To Isles:Gaudreau, Monahan
To Flames: Barzal, Ladd, Dobson/Wilde

Calgary may still be able to replace Gaudreau with Hall assuming Barzal comes in under 10 and Dobson steps in as a top 4 D?

[TheIronMaiden]

Flames: Gaudreau + 3rd

Nashville: Johanson

Nashville saves some cap, shakes things up

Flames at a right shot who can play centre

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Flames: Gaudreau + 3rd

Nashville: Johanson

Nashville saves some cap, shakes things up

Flames at a right shot who can play centre

wut

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Flames: Gaudreau + 3rd

Nashville: Johanson

Nashville saves some cap, shakes things up

Flames at a right shot who can play centre

Gaudreau had a bad year and was still wayyyyyy better than Johansen

Nashville should be the team adding, and they should be adding a lot

[mrchristy31]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Flames: Gaudreau + 3rd

Nashville: Johanson

Nashville saves some cap, shakes things up

Flames at a right shot who can play centre

Johanson, you've got the picks wrong???????

Try Johanson+1st+ for Gaudreau

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I broke down the pros and cons of pursuing Max Domi right here:

https://flamesnation.ca/2020/09/03/s...rsue-max-domi/

Good analysis and comment. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Treliving/Makony show some interest.

I suspect a Montreal wouldn’t be interested in a Kylington + 2nd though. The Habs have stockpiled picks and if anything I would bet they are looking to move some. What if the puck went the other way? Hanifin for Domi and a 2nd?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

wut

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Gaudreau had a bad year and was still wayyyyyy better than Johansen

Nashville should be the team adding, and they should be adding a lot

Originally Posted by mrchristy31

Johanson, you've got the picks wrong???????

Try Johanson+1st+ for Gaudreau

It might be my bias, but players who play centre are higher value. Likewise Johanson has a .842 playoff pts/gp with 48 pts in 57 games.

Johanson is under contract until 2025 at 8 M which is not entirely reasonable, but still he is only a year old than Gaudreau.

The exact details of the trade - as in who adds I may have been out to lunch. But I think that this is the kind of deal the Flames are going to get. No one trades a complete player who fits into their roster well. The Flames are going to have to give up good players to fill their needs.

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Originally Posted by mrchristy31

Johanson, you've got the picks wrong???????

Try Johanson+1st+ for Gaudreau

That's nowhere near what we should get for Gaudreau either.

[Enoch Root]

Great article, Scorp - well written, informative, and balanced.
My comment was going to be this:

Originally Posted by TOfan

Good analysis and comment. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Treliving/Makony show some interest.

I suspect a Montreal wouldn’t be interested in a Kylington + 2nd though. The Habs have stockpiled picks and if anything I would bet they are looking to move some. What if the puck went the other way? Hanifin for Domi and a 2nd?

I can't see Kylington and a 2nd getting it done, but I am glad to see you aren't trying to build a trade around Gaudreau any more.

If we had Brodie re-signed, I could see something involving Hanifin, but we are going to be thin on D this year. Having said that, Hanifin for Domi and a 2nd is probably a pretty good trade for both teams.

I do like the idea of Domi with Tkachuk.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Domi - Mangiapane
Lucic - Bennett - Dube
Ryan - Backlund - Reider

Another thought might be Kylington + Ryan for Domi (though I doubt the Habs go for that)

[ComixZone]

^^
I think the Flames would sooner sign Barrie than re-sign Brodie. There were rumours of a Brodie/Barrie swap during the regular season.

Going with Barrie instead of Brodie would also give us the PP quarterback that we need with Gus leaving.

[Enoch Root]

Brodie >> Barrie

The only thing Barrie has going for him is as the PP quarterback.

I would rather re-sign Gustafsson for way less money than sign Barrie

[David Struch]

Frank Seravalli: “The Pittsburgh Penguins are believed to have one standing offer on the table for Matt Murray. The Maple Leafs, Oilers, Flames, Senators, Sabres and Avalanche are among the potential suitors for Murray’s services – a list that may soon grow.”

https://twitter.com/puck_report2/sta...21385454477312

[dammage79]

Adrian Dater seems to think he has the insider track info that the Avs will be hard and heavy on Murray. Like he's their #1 target.

I think Tree went after Murray acouple.of times so I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames got him. I think his values dropped to a point Tree will be comfortable with.

IMO, move Ritter, sign Talbs to tandem with Murray.

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Brodie >> Barrie

The only thing Barrie has going for him is as the PP quarterback.

I would rather re-sign Gustafsson for way less money than sign Barrie

Ugh, I'd rather let Gustafsson sign elsewhere for peanuts than give h any offer at all. So many turnovers and defensive gaffs that weren't even close to evened out by his (lack of) offensive production.

That said, I pass on Barrie too, and presume Brodie gets paid more to go elsewhere.

Time for Anderson to take that role (fully), and promote from within next year. (Valimaki, Kylington, others to get larger responsibility)