Ongoing Sci-Fi, Comic Book Movie Thread v2

[Finger Cookin]

It'd be a nice full circle if licensing issues contributed to Ms. Marvel the comic book character being an Inhuman, and the resolution of those same licensing issues contributed to Ms. Marvel the MCU character being a mutant

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

So we're just spoiling Ms Marvel in this thread?

[FireGilbert]

I completely missed the Ms. Marvel Easter egg but was kind of bored by the show at the end. I enjoyed the style and tone with some twists on the Spider-man becoming a hero in high school story but this felt too rushed. The villains for example went from trying to befriend the hero, to trying to kill her, to being irrelevant to the plot in like 3 episodes. Seems like the goal of the show was to set up Ms Marvel and her friends to appear along side Brie Larson next year and the focus was more on developing a character than telling a coherent story.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

So we're just spoiling Ms Marvel in this thread?

Spoiler - Ms. Marvel might be involved in shenanigans with the rest of the MCU. I hope that didn't ruin things for you.

Speculating on things is considered posting spoilers now? Sheesh.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Spoiler - Ms. Marvel might be involved in shenanigans with the rest of the MCU. I hope that didn't ruin things for you.

Speculating on things is considered posting spoilers now? Sheesh.

Posting tidbits from a season finale, like SureLoss did, is yes. Sheesh

[Nadal Fan]

Marvel is getting called out for their ####ty working conditions from VFX artists. I guess they give artists tight deadlines with no wiggle room and are very demanding what they want, requesting changes all the time. I feel bad for the VFX artists because they have a tough job and then put out subpar work but it's not their fault. I mean look at these shots from Thor Love and Thunder, this was a $250 million dollar movie, but the CGI is woof

https://www.thegamer.com/marvel-mcu-...crunch-stress/

Spoiler!

[Coach]

Enjoyed the end of Ms. Marvel. Went off the rails a bit in the middle, but overall fun to watch a new hero added with an unfamiliar backstory and interesting new powers.

I liked that they pulled it back to being a tighter "community" save than the world-level stakes that ended up more background.

[Coach]

Also +1 to all Waititi-directed movies that arent Thor 4. That are basically all A+.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

Marvel is getting called out for their ####ty working conditions from VFX artists. I guess they give artists tight deadlines with no wiggle room and are very demanding what they want, requesting changes all the time. I feel bad for the VFX artists because they have a tough job and then put out subpar work but it's not their fault. I mean look at these shots from Thor Love and Thunder, this was a $250 million dollar movie, but the CGI is woof

https://www.thegamer.com/marvel-mcu-...crunch-stress/

Spoiler!

Welcome to film. That's literally ever ####ing movie or TV show I have ever worked on big and small. And that is on the VFX house not Marvel. If you cannot delivery what you bid on don't bid on it. No doubt Marvel can be demanding but you this going into the process it is not new news. And that is VFX in general. It is a sweat shop with massive overhead and small margins. It is a brutal industry.

[Nadal Fan]

10 years ago this week, DC released my all time favorite superhero movie The Dark Knight Rises. Hard to believe it's been a decade but I just love this film, I think it's better than The Dark Knight. I love how grand it is and how wonderful Bane is, he's a terrific villain. I think this still holds up and is the perfect conclusion to the last self contained trilogy of superhero films.

[nik-]

Batman Begins is the best of the Nolan Trilogy and you can't change my mind.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

10 years ago this week, DC released my all time favorite superhero movie The Dark Knight Rises. Hard to believe it's been a decade but I just love this film, I think it's better than The Dark Knight. I love how grand it is and how wonderful Bane is, he's a terrific villain. I think this still holds up and is the perfect conclusion to the last self contained trilogy of superhero films.

Was it really that good? I still don't know what Bane is saying without subtitles.

All I remember was Anne Hathaway's rear on the batbike.

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Was it really that good? I still don't know what Bane is saying without subtitles.

All I remember was Anne Hathaway's rear on the batbike.

I think if you rewatched it now, you might enjoy it more. It's vastly different than the superhero films (both DC and Marvel) that are being put out now. Not to crap on the cinematic universe approach (I love it for the most part) but it is refreshing to go back and enjoy a self contained trilogy with no tie ins or TV shows or forced sequel set ups.

Also 14 years ago today The Dark Knight released in theatres. Maybe the most iconic superhero film ever.

[Galakanokis]

Morbius was bad. No idea why that needed to be a movie. Even my kid thought it was terrible. Like, what was the point and what actually happened in the movie? I completely zoned out it was so bad.

[pseudoreality]

Originally Posted by nik-

Batman Begins is the best of the Nolan Trilogy and you can't change my mind.

Batman Begins blew me away because I had such low expectations. I had no idea which way they were going. Superman Returns came out around the same time and was basically a retread of the 80's Superman movies. So that is what I was expecting, but when I got around to seeing it I was blown away.

Dark Knight was good, but everyone was talking about how it was the greatest movie of all-time going in. Also, Heath Ledger had cult-following The Crow thing going on for him hyping the movie.

I'm still deciding if I should bother with the new Batman movie. It is free on Crave, but I don't know if there is any original take on the character there that would make it worth my time. It looks like a Nolan clone. I get it, Batman is gritty.

[#-3]

The Batman is very watchable, and actually pretty good for the first 2/3. But they pretty much make the D+MCU mistake of biting off more than they can chew for the last act, painting themselves into a pointless narrative corner and hand waving away a lot of the conflicts that never needed to happen.

All in All it's not a movie we needed, but it's certainly the best DC movie probably since Dark Knight, if CBMs are your jam it's worth the watch.

[Nadal Fan]

There is heavy speculation that this weekend Henry Cavill is going to appear at SDCC and announce his return as Superman in either Black Adam or Man of Steel 2.

[KTrain]

I hope it's both. I'm not overly optimistic about Black Adam but I'm looking forwards to seeing the big screen versions of the JSA.

Overtime, Man of Steel has become my favourite DCU movie. The competition isn't stiff in the DCU but I put MoS up there with some of my favourite superhero movies.

[sa226]

Yeah, it's kind of weird how well MoS has aged, for me anyway. I'm sure someone will jump in to say that it's worse than that music video about Friday.

I was a pretty big Superman fan and my most prominent emotion after seeing it in theater was disappointment. The curse of expectations I guess.

I've seen it a handful of times since and I would say it's quite enjoyable.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by sa226

Yeah, it's kind of weird how well MoS has aged, for me anyway. I'm sure someone will jump in to say that it's worse than that music video about Friday.

I was a pretty big Superman fan and my most prominent emotion after seeing it in theater was disappointment. The curse of expectations I guess.

I've seen it a handful of times since and I would say it's quite enjoyable.

Feel kind of the same way. I think it's an issue of getting sick of certain tones in Superhero/sci-fi movies. At the time when MoS was released, the superhero genre was saturated with dark and moody films. So another joyless film was difficult to watch.

Now, the pendulum has swung the other way too far, and the superhero genre is saturated with "quips" and style over substance, hence why Thor: Love and Thunder has had a pretty mediocre run so far.

The MoS was a pretty dense story, really focused on character development and a heavy underlying plot. If you look at the recent success of sci-fi movies like Dune, people are looking for that again.