American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS (Archive)

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I think they do, until someone is willing to take it to court.

This is sort of like saying they have the right to paint you orange until someone is willing to take it to court. They're either allowed to do X or they aren't, the Court just recognizes the fact one way or the other.

Practically speaking, of course, they'll continue to act like they have this power until someone challenges them and (potentially) wins. I'm just saying, it's not necessarily the case that it's actually legal for them to do this - they've just decided that they can, and they'll act accordingly until a Court tells them to stop.

[FlameOn]

With Trump always being so worried about size, Reddit has started photo shopping Trump.

Spoiler!

For more or to contribute
https://www.reddit.com/r/TinyTrumps/

[driveway]

The Purple States of America.

[driveway]

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/supre...ant-us-border/

According to this article, a 1997 Supreme Court case, Ramsey v. United States, upheld the ability of border guards to search phones without a warrant.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by driveway

The Purple States of America.

This definitely made my point far better than I was able to do it with words. That map is kind of fascinating. It's amazing to see how many pockets of blue there are, even through the deep south.

That map shows just how minor the victory really was for Trump, and shows just how much the electoral college/winner take all aspect affects things.

[puffnstuff]

That map should get tweeted at Trump constantly. I read he likes maps. But dont put too many words with it, maybe just a few bullet points, he likes those too.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

This definitely made my point far better than I was able to do it with words. That map is kind of fascinating. It's amazing to see how many pockets of blue there are, even through the deep south.

Those deep-blue pockets of the South can be directly tied to the presence of huge plankton blooms along the prehistoric coastline of North America.

http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich...t-still-kickin

Spoiler!

Look at this map, and notice that deep, deep in the Republican South, there's a thin blue band stretching from the Carolinas through Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi.

Those counties went for Obama because trillions and trillions and trillions of teeny sun-loving creatures died there. He's talking about plankton. That's why the Republicans can't carry those counties. Blame plankton.

Spoiler!

North America as it looked during the Cretaceous era, 129 million to 65 million years ago.
The Deep South had a shoreline that curled through the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi, and there, in the shallow waters just offshore, were immense populations of floating, single-celled creatures who drifted about, trapped sunshine, captured carbon, then died and sank to the sea bottom. Those creatures became long stretches of nutritious chalk.

When sea levels dropped and North America took on its modern shape, those ancient beaches — so alkaline, porous and rich with organic material — became a "black belt" of rich soil, running right through the South.

And because this stretch was so rich and fertile, when cotton farmers moved here in the 19th century, this stretch produced the most cotton per acre.

Spoiler!

Then came slavery.

McClain, quoting from Booker T. Washington's autobiography, Up From Slavery, points out: "The part of the country possessing this thick, dark and naturally rich soil was, of course, the part of the South where the slaves were most profitable, and consequently they were taken there in the largest numbers." After the Civil War, a lot of former slaves stayed on this land, and while many migrated North, their families are still there.

This, says marine biologist McClain, explains that odd stretch of Obama blue; it's African-Americans sitting on old soil from ancient organisms that turned sunshine into fertilizer. So plankton remain a force in Southern elections.

Spoiler!

[wittynickname]

Remember that super creepy mainstream media poll that Trump's administration put out yesterday?

Apparently his own poll was rigged.

(spoilered for size)

Spoiler!

[dash_pinched]

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Looking forward to the Florida rally tomorrow. Big crowd expected!

I'm sorry Florida, but I see no other alternative.

[Drak]

Rubio Tweet

Marco RubioVerified account ‏@marcorubio

I am now very confident Senate Intel Comm I serve on will conduct thorough bipartisan investigation of #Putin interference and influence

[Drak]

Trump lost Joe over the last week or so.

Joe Scarborough ✔ @JoeNBC
Only a FAKE PRESIDENT would declare the First Amendment to be the enemy of the American people.

Maybe it's been longer than that, I dunno.

[KelVarnsen]

[Table 5]

What happened the Territories?

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by Table 5

What happened the Territories?

Didn't make the cut.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally Posted by Drak

Trump lost Joe over the last week or so.



Maybe it's been longer than that, I dunno.

It's been a lot longer. Now Morning Joe is dedicated to trashing him at every opportunity they get.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Guess we know where he gets his coke from

The Trump administration this week froze the assets of a wealthy Venezuelan businessman named Samark Lopez Bello, accusing him of being the “frontman” in a narco-trafficking scheme run by the country’s vice president.

It turns out that Lopez Bello, a petroleum distribution executive in Venezuela, is also a member of one of President Donald Trump’s luxury golf course resorts in South Florida.

His name is on a confidential membership roster at Trump National Doral provided to The Herald. Several members also confirmed the businessman is a member at the luxury resort purchased by President Trump in early 2012, where memberships run as high as $50,000 plus annual fees. It wasn’t clear Friday how long Lopez Bello had been a member there or if he joined before Trump’s purchase of the renowned golf destination.

Helen Ferre, special assistant to the president and director of media affairs, responded to questions about Lopez Bello with a short email statement: “This is not a White House issue, the President is divested from the business.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...#storylink=cpy

[dino7c]

considering the polls and predictions election night was a real ass kicking...he basically won everything that was up in the air.

again I think the dude is terrible, just don't set yourselves up for another disappointment. He isn't getting impeached and if the economy is half decent in four years (even if he has little or nothing to do with it) he has a good shot at winning again

[GGG]

Originally Posted by dino7c

considering the polls and predictions election night was a real ass kicking...he basically won everything that was up in the air.

again I think the dude is terrible, just don't set yourselves up for another disappointment. He isn't getting impeached and if the economy is half decent in four years (even if he has little or nothing to do with it) he has a good shot at winning again

Nooooooooooooo

The overall national polls were bang on as counting is completed.

The state polls in a few swing states were wrong. The media took the upshot 20% chance of Trump victory and 538s 33% chance of trump victory and treated them like sure things when instead we flipped a coin twice and it came up heads twice.

It wasn't quote "an ass kicking". It was poor media and people understanding of what a 20% chance is and some crappy modlers failure to recognize that polling misses are likely to be coorellated in one direction.

His impeachment will occur the day that house republicans feel more threatened by primaries from the centre than from the right.

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Remember that super creepy mainstream media poll that Trump's administration put out yesterday?

Apparently his own poll was rigged.

(spoilered for size)

Spoiler!

Thousands of democrats have sabotaged the results....by taking the poll? I don't think he understands how these things work.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by dino7c

considering the polls and predictions election night was a real ass kicking...he basically won everything that was up in the air.

He barely won those states. Jesus, you sound like some Oiler fan talking about their 2006 playoff run. They got extremely lucky and rode a hot goaltender. Proof was in the pudding after the fact and the Oilers returned to the #### show they had been prior to that run. Trump got extremely lucky that Comey set the table for him and Clinton did nothing to fight back. 107,330 votes is what made the biggest difference, and won the election for Trump, but it was actually a lot closer to be a complete stomping the other way. Here are the swing states that went Trump, the margin he won by, and then a comparison to the Garry Johnson protest vote.

Arizona (11 electoral votes) - 91,234, well inside the Gary Johnson vote margin of 106,327
Florida (29 electoral votes) - 112,911, well inside the Gary Johnson vote margin of 207,043
Michigan (16 electoral votes) - 10,704, well inside the Gary Johnson vote margin of 51,463
Pennsylvania (20 electoral votes) - 44,292, well inside the Gary Johnson vote margin of 146,715
Wisconsin (10 electoral votes) - 22,748, well inside the Gary Johnson vote margin of 106,674

Conversely, the only state that went Clinton that falls into the same "battle ground condition" was Nevada (6 electoral votes).

So that massive ass kicking was on the back of 281,889 votes, out of the 137,098,601 votes cast, or a margin of .002056 percent. That 281,889 votes falls well inside the votes collected by Gary Johnson <4,489,233>, Jill Stein <1,457,222>, Evan McMullin(!) <729,824> and Other (write-ins) <1,583,591>.

This was a fluke of Oileresque fashion. This will never happen again. The numbers just lined up very well for Comacho and the FBI gave a hard enough push in the final week to make the numbers fall right into his lap. 85 electoral votes awarded on 282,000 votes with everything falling into a guy's lap.

again I think the dude is terrible, just don't set yourselves up for another disappointment. He isn't getting impeached and if the economy is half decent in four years (even if he has little or nothing to do with it) he has a good shot at winning again

Now you're sounding like a guy who just had his girl friend dump him and he's completely given up on women or relationships in general. Expect every chick out there is going to rip your heart of your chest and take all your CDs when she moves out! Sad. Very sad.