2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’d like to keep 28th OA. Take on a bad contract.

Markstrom for Palat and 10th OA.

retain 50% on Mangiapane and trade him to a contending team needing a middle 6 winger for cheap. Roll with Palat - Backlund - Coleman

No idea if its feasible, but I would love something like this. It would be a creative way to weaponize cap space.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by jg13

https://twitter.com/user/status/1797984446119022686

They pretty much have to have that pick in play to get a legitimate starting goalie.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Makarov

No idea if its feasible, but I would love something like this. It would be a creative way to weaponize cap space.

Palat is a good two way player if not better than Mangiapane, he easily slots in our expensive 3rd line who can take on the 1st lines of the nhl defensively if need be. Palat is a great vet who has been there, done that. Blake Coleman 2.0. I think he would do great here and embrace his role. Jersey also gains zero cap space from the transaction which allows them room for Mercer and Toffoli. Also need cap for Hughes and Nemec in the future.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Palat is a good two way player if not better than Mangiapane, he easily slots in our expensive 3rd line who can take on the 1st lines of the nhl defensively if need be. Palat is a great vet who has been there, done that. Blake Coleman 2.0. I think he would do great here and embrace his role. Jersey also gains zero cap space from the transaction which allows them room for Mercer and Toffoli. Also need cap for Hughes and Nemec in the future.

I agree and it happens a ton where a player struggles, deemed untradeable and then they play well. Not sure if injuries have slowed him down or not but he would be a good leader to add and who knows, maybe he plays well and is tradeable with salary retention before his contract is up.

[Niemo]

Give NJD Coleman for Palat swap on top of Markstrom for the 10th Overall! Take back something small if we feel fleeced.

[Monahammer]

Rasmus Andersson + Andrew Mangiapane for 11th OA + Buff 2nd+ Clifton+Krebs

Markstrom + Clifton to NJ for 10th OA + Palat

We can do it!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Braden

Get the devil's pick! 9th +10th pick in this draft would have me excited about this team for the first time in a long time

Two picks in the top ten makes this draft easy and a huge boost for the organization.

Pick one of the forwards and one of the defencemen. Instant credibility.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’d like to keep 28th OA. Take on a bad contract.

Markstrom for Palat and 10th OA.

retain 50% on Mangiapane and trade him to a contending team needing a middle 6 winger for cheap. Roll with Palat - Backlund - Coleman

3 picks in the 1st round.
1 Iginla, 1 Centre, 1 Defenceman.

Absolutely dream scenario for this draft. Conroy becomes the true wizard.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Your entire mental framework around this team is one of lack, scarcity, and playing small. It's truly astonishing how one could support a professional sports organization and have zero expectations whatsoever. I truly hope this isn't the prevailing mentality within the organization.

Someone else already posted an extensive list of playoff round wins etc. that other franchises have done, I'm not going to repeat it, but its not like you don't know. If you think one playoff round win every 8-10 years is an acceptable level of success for the Flames, I guess that's your very low bar as a fan. You are likely alone on that island.

The rest of your post is just a whole load of fearful glass half empty nonsense. Population, currency and tax structure haven't held the Flames back in any significant way for probably 2 decades or more. The Flames have attracted big name free agents, dished out large contracts, made big trade splashes, without issue over the years. Yes, not every player wants to come to Calgary but creating opportunities to win or play with great players goes a long way to helping with that, as is probably the case anywhere. How do they get great players? Well first off all, they need opportunities to draft them. And that means acknowledging they need high picks and strategizing their hockey moves accordingly in windows like the current one. Which to their credit -- they did last season. We'll see if that continues.

There are a number of posters that are content with the Flames playing well for a number of games in the regular season, having some fun players for a few years, making the playoffs once in a while and trash talking the Oilers.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

where did the idiots portion of that comment come from?

I don't know if Nonis leaked any information. I do know that Dreger is a reputable insider who was even more reliable when Nonis was in Toronto.

Just saying for the rumour to be a "fact" we would have to believe that a guy who everybody knows is connected to an "insider" would think that by leaking that they couldn't do their job because of senior management or the owner would be a good career move.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Leaking information happens in all of sports, its a strategy. It puts pressure on either side.

The only side that would be able to gain from that leak would be the Devils or potentially Markstrom's agent.

[GioforPM]

I think the reports are dramatic both ways. I suspect most owners play a role in big decisions. They also need to be sold on team direction. I would, if I were spending the money. That may go as far as requiring an OK on major trades. I don't think this is unusual. My limited experience with Edwards is that he's fairly hands on but also delegates a lot (and expects a lot from his delegates).

I don't think owners, including Edwards, get into the weeds as much as vetoing a trade on the basis of, for example, the return being Holtz and not Mercer. I could see, however, Edwards thinking he can give bargaining strategy advice to Conroy (or Treliving). And that advice might not always work.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I think the Devils prefer a younger goalie.

But hopefully Brodeur convinces them otherwise.

The problem with that is where are they going to get a younger goalie that is a legit #1 workhorse? From things I have heard the Bruins want to trade Ullmark to a Western Conference team. The Predators have been saying they intend on keeping Saros. Now that might be a leak to drive the price up if they are ready to embrace some years of pain working a young goalie in who probably isn't ready to be a #1. The price will be a lot steeper on Saros than Markstrom, the rumoured ask at the deadline was Mercer + 2024 1st and two more picks/prospects. Personally I don't think Trotz is bluffing, I think they sign Saros this off season. John Gibson's name is out there every year but there are major hurdles there. For one he has not been that good for a few years now. Second, his contract is brutal. Third, he gets injured a lot, and fourth being the biggest issue is he really likes Anaheim and makes it difficult for them to move him. So I don't see a lot of options for the Devils here.

[CliffFletcher]

Palat has a NMC. Hard to imagine him waiving for a rebuilding, small-market Canadian team.

That’s the difficulty with a team like the Flames weaponizing cap space - most overpaid vets in the league today have trade protection.

[Major Major]

Don't forget he turfed Bean. Wouldn't surprise me if he was accountable to yearly revenue or something and pushed Edwards to keep the team competitive. He is hockey adjacent and probably had Murray's ear. To me that shows Conroy is at the wheel.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The problem with that is where are they going to get a younger goalie that is a legit #1 workhorse? From things I have heard the Bruins want to trade Ullmark to a Western Conference team. The Predators have been saying they intend on keeping Saros. Now that might be a leak to drive the price up if they are ready to embrace some years of pain working a young goalie in who probably isn't ready to be a #1. The price will be a lot steeper on Saros than Markstrom, the rumoured ask at the deadline was Mercer + 2024 1st and two more picks/prospects. Personally I don't think Trotz is bluffing, I think they sign Saros this off season. John Gibson's name is out there every year but there are major hurdles there. For one he has not been that good for a few years now. Second, his contract is brutal. Third, he gets injured a lot, and fourth being the biggest issue is he really likes Anaheim and makes it difficult for them to move him. So I don't see a lot of options for the Devils here.

Nashville does not need to rush a Saros trade either. They can sign him this summer and trade him either when they get their price or Askarov pushes him out of the way. Not sure why Nashville would lower their price.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by jg13

https://twitter.com/user/status/1797984446119022686

Here, kitty kitty

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Don't forget he turfed Bean. Wouldn't surprise me if he was accountable to yearly revenue or something and pushed Edwards to keep the team competitive. He is hockey adjacent and probably had Murray's ear. To me that shows Conroy is at the wheel.

It was my understanding that Bean retired.

Either way, I believe it was a bit weird to put someone like him there as a spokesman when he clearly didn't have great presentation skills.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Palat has a NMC. Hard to imagine him waiving for a rebuilding, small-market Canadian team.

That’s the difficulty with a team like the Flames weaponizing cap space - most overpaid vets in the league today have trade protection.

I guess they'll just have to include Mercer then.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Palat has a NMC. Hard to imagine him waiving for a rebuilding, small-market Canadian team.

That’s the difficulty with a team like the Flames weaponizing cap space - most overpaid vets in the league today have trade protection.

That's a fair point.