Your belief about September, 11th, 2001

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

Uh, what?

He has his credentials.

Lying about being employed by someone to garner credentials doesn't seem like being credential to me.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Lying about being employed by someone to garner credentials doesn't seem like being credential to me.

He was a former employee..
Wheres your proof that hes lying about his credentials...that have been verified..

[puckluck]

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010...uth-interview/

[Nuje]

Ok. So one guy, who lied about where he was employed, said that fire couldn't have caused the building to collapse as such. While he may be an expert in controlled demolitions, he is not an expert in uncontrolled building collapses as a result of a plane crash/fire combo. He says that they couldn't have collapsed that way by fire alone. Well first of all, it wasn't fire alone. Second of all, I'd trust engineers who know the ins and outs of what happens to steel at certain temperatures, over a demolition expert.

A demolition expert knows how to look at a stripped out building, and know where to place all the necessary charges to cause the building to implode as neatly as possible. A demolition expert does NOT know how what happens to a building if a passenger airliner crashes into it, causing jet fuel to explode on top of that, and having a long fire burn, with said fire having its origin at the point in the building weakened by a plane. One demolition expert vs. many engineers world-wide commenting on the matter. I'll side with the latter.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Nuje

Ok. So one guy, who lied about where he was employed, said that fire couldn't have caused the building to collapse as such. While he may be an expert in controlled demolitions, he is not an expert in uncontrolled building collapses as a result of a plane crash/fire combo. He says that they couldn't have collapsed that way by fire alone. Well first of all, it wasn't fire alone. Second of all, I'd trust engineers who know the ins and outs of what happens to steel at certain temperatures, over a demolition expert.

A demolition expert knows how to look at a stripped out building, and know where to place all the necessary charges to cause the building to implode as neatly as possible. A demolition expert does NOT know how what happens to a building if a passenger airliner crashes into it, causing jet fuel to explode on top of that, and having a long fire burn, with said fire having its origin at the point in the building weakened by a plane. One demolition expert vs. many engineers world-wide commenting on the matter. I'll side with the latter.

Game, set and match.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Game, set and match.

Actually, no.
Its not game, set and match.

But, if people keep on repeating it, maybe it will come true!!!

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

Actually, no.
Its not game, set and match.

Then go and refute anything he said.

Actually, yes.

It's game, set, and match.

[You Need a Thneed]

I've never understood why "truthers" would expect that a uncontrolled building collapse wouldn't result in a building falling straight down. Gravity pulls straight down - how else is it going to fall? The buildings you see falling over sideways are always the fault of the foundations being undermined. The WTC was standing straight up before it collapsed.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

But, if people keep on repeating it, maybe it will come true!!!

And maybe
if you'd
stop typing
like this
you would'nt come off as a
know-it-all and
arrogant

[CrusaderPi]

Why didn't it tip over like tree?

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by puckluck

And maybe
if you'd
stop typing
like this
you would'nt come off as a
know-it-all and
arrogant

I dont type like that
at
all

[getbak]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Why didn't it tip over like tree?

Trees are solid, buildings are mostly empty space. When buildings collapse, the materials that make up the structure collapse into the empty space.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by getbak

Trees are solid, buildings are mostly empty space. When buildings collapse, the materials that make up the structure collapse into the empty space.

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Nice breeze over your head.

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by getbak

Trees are solid, buildings are mostly empty space. When buildings collapse, the materials that make up the structure collapse into the empty space.

Good point, but wrong! Even a rotted out hollow tree will tip over.

Imagine the pictures Dion would be able to post if they fell over. Osama dressed like a Quebecois lumberjack shouting TIMBERALALALALA!

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

Actually, no.
Its not game, set and match.

But, if people keep on repeating it, maybe it will come true!!!

Repeating the truth for it to come true is hardly necessary.

Since you are all about what one expert says, here is an entire group of experst who were not hired by anyone to satisfy and side of this debate, but who looked at all the evidence and explain, quite clearly, how and why the buildings fell as they did.

http://www.implosionworld.com/Articl...09-8-06%20.pdf

I suspect you won't believe a word they say, because truthers really dont want to know...the truth. That being said I look forward to you being able to refute their stance with equally valid people in the field backing up that position.

Oh i meant to link the website of the company who prepared this report as well.

http://www.protecservices.com/

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

The poster is represented by the content he posts. Especially on a message board where people only know each other by what they post. For example, if beerfest says something crazy I will think he's crazy. Or if peter12 says something pretentious I will think he's pretentious. Or if jetsfan says something misogynistic I will think he's a woman hating caveman. Or if Dion says something with words I will wonder if he's used all the pictures on the internet already.

And by all means, if I say something stupid call me on it.

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Good point, but wrong! Even a rotted out hollow tree will tip over.

Imagine the pictures Dion would be able to post if they fell over. Osama dressed like a Quebecois lumberjack shouting TIMBERALALALALA!

Can I just say that you are quickly becoming one of my favourite posters for your participation in this thread alone?

This is some of the best stuff I have read on CP in months! Multiple thanks.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Why didn't it tip over like tree?

Im gonna go out on a limb here (pun intended) and say...

Cause it wasn't a tree?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Im still waiting for anyone who believes that the government was behind this whole thing to answer one simple question.

Why attack the Pentagon? What did that allow in terms of going to war that demolishing the towers wouldn't have?

Just a simple logical explanation as to why they would attack themselves, literally, would sure be appreciated.

Simple the aliens at Roswell had finally died and had been moved to the Pentagon for a final autopsy. The government decided that this was a mistake and that Doctors Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison knew too much and needed to be silenced.

so the cruise missile disguised as an airliner that crashed into the Pentagon accomplished a lot of things. It destroyed the bodies of the aliens. It killed Doctors Presley and Morrison, and the ensuing fire destroyed Dick Cheney's expense reports which included stops at various donkey clubs in Mexico.

And with the 9/11 attacks the government wrapped everything up into a neat bow. Except they didn't realize that Hyperspace Aliens disguised as interior decorators had been watching.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by getbak

Trees are solid, buildings are mostly empty space. When buildings collapse, the materials that make up the structure collapse into the empty space.

This.

The inertia is enormous in a 600,000 tonne concrete/steel building collapsing at well over 100 mph.
It's amazing the amount of people that don't get this, I'm going to go out on a limb and say people who believe the towers should have fallen like a tree are either on too many meds, have an IQ under 80 or run a conspiracy website.

[Phaneuf3]

You people are all blind to the truth. Educate yourselves. You have no idea how deep this conspiracy goes. Richard Gage states here: http://wakingjonah.com/2010/09/11/ri...s-show-part-1/
that building 7 fell in 6.5 seconds. This man is an architect, you can't argue against the facts he's laying out - he's an expert. How on earth does that happen due to fire?! First things first, that building was 226m tall. Dusting off a little bit of physics I haven't used in a while, it seems that the acceleration for that building to collapse in 6.5 seconds would be about... 10.698 m/s^2. That is FASTER than gravity.

CLEARLY the only explanation here is that the US government conspired with aliens from hyperspace to create a gravity well at the base of this building to bring it down. The "pull" of earth's gravity alone could not possibly do this. Ever wonder why they were using the phrase "pull it" that day? That's right, they're talking about their artificial gravity well, baby!

We're through the looking glass here, people.