[Signing] McDavid (2 yrs, $12.5mil AAV) and Walman ($7mi x7) sign extensions with Oilers

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by McG

Assuming that there is a NMC, why would McDavid agree to move to a team that was gutted to bring him in, and why would he re-sign with that team if they traded current players and futures? Why would a team do that without an extension in place?

If any trade happened as envisioned, it would be draft picks, and between the improved standings from McDavid’s new team and the oilers ineptitude in drafting and development, it is nowhere near likely that the Oilers remain as contenders.

I think it’s far more likely that McDavid walks at the end of the deal, or signs the 6 year extension at that time. Will he also give a discount at that time?

The contracts they are signing seem to line up with McDavid walking...they are throwing out term like crazy to older players. Ekholm 4, Walman 8, Fredrick 8. (including this year) Its going to be a mess 4 years from today.

[Toast_Man]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Vegas adds a 102 point player and its barely mentioned on state media other than the Leafs angle. This is by far the biggest upgrade of any team in the league

My concern is will he show up for playoffs. Having Marner on your team for 82 games in the regular season is a huge boon.... but his playoff performance record leaves a lot to be desired.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Toast_Man

My concern is will he show up for playoffs. Having Marner on your team for 82 games in the regular season is a huge boon.... but his playoff performance record leaves a lot to be desired.

He was scoring until the final games against the Panthers...same as McDavid

I mean the poor guy was PPG in the playoffs lol, Leafs media is crazy, no wonder he left.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Inferno

I'm not supporting them. I explained to Strange Brew what they meant because he was confused about it. I got what they were saying because I don't have to take everything literally to understand it whether I agree with it or not. Unlike some people.

Ah, but they were technically wrong on the internet (based on a different interpretation), the most egregious of offences.

You should know better!

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Didn't marner have the best playoff PPG of the Leaf's top players? Or maybe it was second after Nylander. But it was better than Matthews.

Every one choked against the Panthers. They're the top dogs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Didn't marner have the best playoff PPG of the Leaf's top players? Or maybe it was second after Nylander. But it was better than Matthews.

Every one choked against the Panthers. They're the top dogs.

I'm going off memory but hasn't McDavid also been totally shut down by the Panthers in the later games 2 years in a row.

I mean if the Oilers had to play the Panthers in round two they would have the same fate and reputation as the "choker Leafs"

[Toast_Man]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He was scoring until the final games against the Panthers...same as McDavid

I mean the poor guy was PPG in the playoffs lol, Leafs media is crazy, no wonder he left.

Fair point, he did well against Ottawa and less so against the Panthers.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm going off memory but hasn't McDavid also been totally shut down by the Panthers in the later games 2 years in a row.

I mean if the Oilers had to play the Panthers in round two they would have the same fate and reputation as the "choker Leafs"

All I remember is Draisaitl being blanked for goals in 2024.

Complete not factor in that finals.

Think he was slightly more effective the last time around, but they went out in less games and I wouldnt put him in the top 5 most effective players out there for either side.

McDavid tried in 2024 but in the second meeting Bennett and Marchand were both better than him. He looked resigned to an L in the last two games as the Panthers sunk the Dagger.

And to think they believe they have as good a chance this season lol.

[afc wimbledon]

I suspect neither the Panthers or Oilers make the playoffs this year, the shear physical grind off playing an extra 4 to 6 weeks, the travel from East to West, for two years in a row tends to limit teams to 1 or 2 shots at Conference finals let alone the cup.

Even the dynasties tend to drop a year then come back again

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I suspect neither the Panthers or Oilers make the playoffs this year, the shear physical grind off playing an extra 4 to 6 weeks, the travel from East to West, for two years in a row tends to limit teams to 1 or 2 shots at Conference finals let alone the cup.

Even the dynasties tend to drop a year then come back again

Panthers were there in 3 straight years.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Panthers were there in 3 straight years.

The Panthers obviously have a far deeper team that is shouldering the wear and tear, and is more collectively contributing to the team's success. They also travel far less in general than the Oilers. When's the last time a western conference team has gone back to back, let alone made the finals 3 years in a row?

The answer is not this century. The Blackhawks won 3 times in 5 seasons, and that team was on another level in terms of depth as well. You'd have to go all the way back to Detroit in the 90s and again they were on a different planet as a team. Confident in saying this 2 man show in Edmonton isn't bucking the trend with that embarrassing support cast behind them.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

The Panthers obviously have a far deeper team that is shouldering the wear and tear, and is more collectively contributing to the team's success. They also travel far less in general than the Oilers. When's the last time a western conference team has gone back to back, let alone made the finals 3 years in a row?

The answer is not this century. The Blackhawks won 3 times in 5 seasons, and that team was on another level in terms of depth as well. You'd have to go all the way back to Detroit in the 90s and again they were on a different planet as a team. Confident in saying this 2 man show in Edmonton isn't bucking the trend with that embarrassing support cast behind them.

Yzerman's Detroit lost their first trip to the cup, dropped a year then won twice, dropped 3 years before a last win, it is hard to think of any team that strong due to the once in a lifetime addition of the Russians ever happening again, even within that era they were incredibly lucky to put that lineup together, Detroit being about the furthest East of the Western Conference teams didn't hurt either