10-31-2023, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
A repeat offender is one who has been suspended for a second offense within 18 months of the previous offense. Repeat offender status only applies to the way fines and salary forfeiture is calculated. All disciplinary history is considered when determining a player's suspension
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Exactly. He only "isn't a repeat offender" if he was getting a fine. Suspensions take all prior history into account.
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10-31-2023, 04:54 PM
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#422
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Originally Posted by Spurs
If he does it more than 18 months from now yes, assuming the rules haven't changed yes.
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"All disciplinarian history is used when determining a suspension"
The guy was suspended for this exact thing
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10-31-2023, 04:55 PM
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#423
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dino7c
"All disciplinarian history is used when determining a suspension"
The guy was suspended for this exact thing
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Ok?
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10-31-2023, 04:56 PM
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#424
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Originally Posted by Spurs
Ok?
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His prior suspension should have been a factor
But yeah same same
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10-31-2023, 04:58 PM
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#425
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dino7c
His prior suspension should have been a factor
But yeah same same
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So if the same thing happens in 18 plus months it is likely the NHL will ignore it again.
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10-31-2023, 04:59 PM
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#426
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Scoring Winger
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dino7c
You keep ignoring the fact this player has been suspended for this exact play again
It's more than I expected but still
When is nurse's suspension for a gloved punch? Lucic got one. But yeah no double standards I am cray cray
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Maybe Lucic has a history and Nurse doesn't?
I donno, I don't really care what you believe and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. I just think it's kinda stupid.
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10-31-2023, 05:00 PM
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#427
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Originally Posted by Spurs
He is not a repeat offender according to the NHL rules, even with his previous suspension.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
If he does it more than 18 months from now yes, assuming the rules haven't changed yes.
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https://www.nhl.com/news/boston-brui...avoy-suspended
"This is an illegal check to the head. The player has been fined once and suspended once, in in his 389 game NHL career, also for an illegal check to the head. Department of Player Safety has suspended Charlie McAvoy for four games."
In other words, without the prior history, he would have only received 2-3 games.
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10-31-2023, 05:01 PM
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#428
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No if Rasmus does it again he is getting a harsher penalty
we all know this
McAvoy gets off light considering he has been suspended for this play previously.
There is nothing tinfoil hat about this statement
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10-31-2023, 05:02 PM
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#429
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Originally Posted by RedHawk12
Maybe Lucic has a history and Nurse doesn't?
I donno, I don't really care what you believe and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. I just think it's kinda stupid.
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I notice how you still refuse to comment on the actual issue...which many seem to agree
Why are they getting the same punishment when McAvoy has been suspended for this hit previously??
like I said its more than I expected but still...come on now. I love how you take shots at me as most are agreeing
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10-31-2023, 05:02 PM
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#430
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Lifetime Suspension
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It is the very definition of tin foil hat, but reality means nothing to you and you have repeatedly shown you are unwilling and unable to back your made up claim the NHL has it out for the Flames.
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10-31-2023, 05:03 PM
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#431
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Originally Posted by Spurs
It is the very definition of tin foil hat, but reality means nothing to you and you have repeatedly shown you are unwilling and unable to back your made up claim the NHL has it out for the Flames.
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Hey look its Spurs...never biased about anything
So why is McAvoy getting the same suspension when he has been suspended for it previously again??
lets hear it?
You are thanking posts that agree with me lol
"This is an illegal check to the head. The player has been fined once and suspended once, in in his 389 game NHL career, also for an illegal check to the head. Department of Player Safety has suspended Charlie McAvoy for four games."
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10-31-2023, 05:06 PM
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#432
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Hey look its Spurs...never biased about anything
So why is McAvoy getting the same suspension when he has been suspended for it previously again??
lets hear it?
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Because the NHL is pathetic when it comes to suspensions, there is no argument from me there and never has been. The punishments are consistently too light, inconsistent and go against their own rules, guidelines and past decisions.
It has nothing to do with a bunch of people with zero reason to have anything against Calgary, and plenty of reasons to not single them out, making decisions to screw Calgary over.
Edit: I am thanking posts that show the NHL is terrible at suspenions. Nothing in that post shows any evidence that they have a hate or bias against Calgary.
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10-31-2023, 05:07 PM
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https://www.nhl.com/news/topic/playe...pended-4-games
"This is charging. Laine suffered an injury on the play. Andersson has been fined once in his 382 game NHL career. The Department of Player Safety has suspended Rasmus Andersson for four games."
Head contact wasn't part of Raz's suspension. It was charging + Laine getting hurt (a player who misses games if you even breathe on him) + Raz has been fined once for an unrelated (it even says in the video that his prior fine is unrelated to this) incident.
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10-31-2023, 05:10 PM
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"This is an illegal check to the head. The player has been fined once and suspended once, in in his 389 game NHL career, also for an illegal check to the head. Department of Player Safety has suspended Charlie McAvoy for four games."
"This is charging. Laine suffered an injury on the play. Andersson has been fined once in his 382 game NHL career. The Department of Player Safety has suspended Rasmus Andersson for four games."
like I can't even with some of you. In the real world penalties usually double or worse on a second offence
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10-31-2023, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dino7c
I notice how you still refuse to comment on the actual issue...which many seem to agree
Why are they getting the same punishment when McAvoy has been suspended for this hit previously??
like I said its more than I expected but still...come on now. I love how you take shots at me as most are agreeing
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Maybe because the NHL deemed the Andersson hit to be more predatory? Maybe dangerous hits in the dying seconds of a game are worth a longer suspensions than dangerous hits that are not in the dying seconds?
I don't have all the answers to that. All I'm saying is the suspensions seem consistent, all factors considered and it seems more likely to me that the suspensions are all within the range rather than being overly harsh against Flames players.
I'm not taking a shot specifically at you. I'm taking a shot at all the tinfoilers, you included.
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10-31-2023, 05:13 PM
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#436
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
"This is an illegal check to the head. The player has been fined once and suspended once, in in his 389 game NHL career, also for an illegal check to the head. Department of Player Safety has suspended Charlie McAvoy for four games."
"This is charging. Laine suffered an injury on the play. Andersson has been fined once in his 382 game NHL career. The Department of Player Safety has suspended Rasmus Andersson for four games."
like I can't even with some of you. In the real world penalties usually double or worse on a second offence
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Are you this dumb or just this much of a homer?
All that shows is that the NHL is inconsistent at suspensions which I don't think anyone disagrees with.
You have yet to provide a single piece of evidence that they hate the Flames, any evidence why the many, many people who would have to go along with this are cool with not only not doing their job, but screwing over a franchise for no reason and most importantly of all why Murray Edwards- friend of the league and important owner, is cool with the league screwing him over so much and potentially costing him millions of dollars?
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10-31-2023, 05:13 PM
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#437
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
"This is an illegal check to the head. The player has been fined once and suspended once, in in his 389 game NHL career, also for an illegal check to the head. Department of Player Safety has suspended Charlie McAvoy for four games."
"This is charging. Laine suffered an injury on the play. Andersson has been fined once in his 382 game NHL career. The Department of Player Safety has suspended Rasmus Andersson for four games."
like I can't even with some of you. In the real world penalties usually double or worse on a second offence
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Your pompoms are going into overdrive this season with this Flames team! lol
Chill before you stroke out!
Laine still hasn't played a game since the hit. Rasmus fully got what he deserved.
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10-31-2023, 05:14 PM
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#438
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Its not that hard to have a stiffer penalty for a repeat offender...its not a judgement call
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10-31-2023, 05:15 PM
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#439
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Your pompoms are going into overdrive this season with this Flames team! lol
Chill before you stroke out!
Laine still hasn't played a game since the hit. Rasmus fully got what he deserved.
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anyone with sense agrees that a repeat offender shouldn't be getting the same penalty. People are even making up rules that don't exist to excuse the bias.
maybe read the bolded text, it makes zero sense regardless of what you think of me
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10-31-2023, 05:16 PM
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#440
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Originally Posted by dino7c
anyone with sense agrees that a repeat offender shouldn't be getting the same
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So McAvoy should have gotten 8 games? lol
I mean you full blown guns blazing that Rasmus shouldn't have even gotten 1 game that night. It's ok to be wrong. Just chill dude.
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