[GT] Flames vs Flyers 2023-02-20

[Poe969]

Anyone who watches this team and thinks they should be buyers needs to give their head a shake. Don't spend assets on a team that isn't good enough to compete on a regular basis. They won't just all of a sudden "click" and become a dominant team, they aren't that good yet. After some offseason changes, I think this team could be really good. Just not now.

[Vedder]

If there is a team you can come back against, it’s these guys. LFG.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

The Swedish Sieve is going to cost this team the season. Unbelievable he is still playing so poorly.

I know armchair etc.., but if I'm the GM I give Markstrom the Cal Petersen treatment, and if he blocks it, I move heaven and earth by this point to clear that roster spot to get Wolf or a trade acquisition in there instead

Waiver wire pickups would probably give us goaltending just as good at this point

I doubt his compete level is at fault, but the reason doesn't matter much at this point. We need to ice a team that isn't scared ####less its goalie is going to let in the next low percentage shot

It clearly affects the psyche of the team massively

[Barnet Flame]

Holy ####, what a Markstrom love in from Francis

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

This is what happens on any team with poor goaltending.

If this game is 1-1 then people are just frustrated with the lack of finish.

Even if it's 2-1 people probably are annoyed and mad at the PP.

But when it's 3-1 then the entire team sucks and it needs to be blown up.

But really the only reason it's 3-1 is because Markstrom has let in 3 goals on 1.69 xGF and got bailed out by a dman on a 4th.

Goalies can make bad teams look good and they can make good teams look bad...and IMO this Flames team falls into that latter category this year.

Still not sure they'd be a cup contender but even with a .905 save percentage they'd comfortably he a playoff team.

The first two goals are bad coverage and turnovers in transition. Hard to blame marky for giving up goals in grade A situations.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by AC

He's about to set the NHL record for the biggest drop off in points from one full season to the next.

He had a great game vs the Rangers, but like the rest of the team, moral victories don't ####ing matter when the team isn't scoring or winning games. Huberdeau should be a PP specialist and good for a big goal or assist every game. Instead he's been mostly invisible, or noticeable for making awful decisions with the puck.

Given his skillset, there's some hope that he could have a big rebound season next year... but jesus christ what a disaster so far.

I don’t see a big bounce back happening next year. This coach, this system, this player - it’s a nightmare. The best chance this team has in correcting this is building chemistry between Huberdeau and Lindholm - he’s the only player who has a skillset capable of playing with Huberdeau in my eyes. Huberdeau is very good, but this is a very bad fit. Give me Huberdeau-Lindholm-Dube for the remainder of the season and hopefully something gets built there.

As the season goes on, the more and more I look at Kadri and think about that contract and that age and think it’s going to be the biggest problem for this team as soon as Markstrom’s contract is off the books.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

And don’t get me started on the pp. muller really isn’t coaching this group to their strengths.

This.

Honestly the PP set up is baffling.

5 LH shots on one unit. 3 RH shots on the other.

Too far spread out and they tend to keep play on one side of the ice with little motion.

I know it's easy to get on Huberdeau but honestly he's the only guy in motion at all on the PP, and who tries to create lanes by moving around. Everyone else just stands still.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

The first two goals are bad coverage and turnovers in transition. Hard to blame marky for giving up goals in grade A situations.

He's a reigning Vezina finalist paid 6 million to be near the top of the stats sheet

Yes, we can.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

The first two goals are bad coverage and turnovers in transition. Hard to blame marky for giving up goals in grade A situations.

That first chance happens every game. Its a nice play by Konency but its not like it was labeled top corner.

Shot from the circle that beat him short side. Very saveable IMO

And the timing is killer. Flames dominate the period, other goalie made 2-4 great saves. Markstrom first real chance against and its a goal.

IMO their goalie made three tougher stops in the first period than that goal.

Just deflating.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

Holy ####, what a Markstrom love in from Francis

Coles note for those of us watching the other feed?

[Vedder]

Yeah that first goal is a perfect shot low blocker after horrid defending by Hanifin and Anderson. Third goal is saveable. Further out.

[GullFoss]

Francis with two terrible takes lol

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Andersson irritates greatly on the PP.

He slows down the play every time and never takes a (good) shot

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

The issue with this group has been the teanaisition and in zone defence. They give up a lot of ten bell chances.

Plus the offensive side doesn’t make to many ten bellers for themselves.

It’s a lost season.

The pp has been a massive heel all season. 4 pps tonight nothing to show against a bottom feeder. Sigh

[Flamesfan05]

The NHL is full of dumb GMs, maybe some idiot can take Hanifin off our hands

Maybe something like what we paid for Hamonic?

The guy can have a couple good games but he’ll choke when it counts

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Vedder

If there is a team you can come back against, it’s these guys. LFG.

Maybe start the third period like the first on Saturday?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

The first two goals are bad coverage and turnovers in transition. Hard to blame marky for giving up goals in grade A situations.

He gets paid as a top goalie in this league to make hard stops. The Flames invest too dollar for a goalie who is suppose to be a game changer

Every game it’s the same thing with him - 1 poor goal , and a bunch that “aren’t his fault”

You know what is missing ? Maybe stop the odd one that “isn’t his fault”

The opposing goalie has sure stopped a few tonight that if they went in “wouldn’t have been his fault “

Markstrum has been nothing short of a disaster this entire season . How anyone can defend anything from him at this point is mind bottling !

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

And don’t get me started on the pp. muller really isn’t coaching this group to their strengths.

Muller and Sigalet still going to the dome to work every day just says everything about the Flames as an organization

There's no bar. No standard.

[Vedder]

Need a period like the second in Buffalo. Break the dam.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

That first chance happens every game. Its a nice play by Konency but its not like it was labeled top corner.

Shot from the circle that beat him short side. Very saveable IMO

And the timing is killer. Flames dominate the period, other goalie made 2-4 great saves. Markstrom first real chance against and its a goal.

Just deflating.

Nah Anderson caused the play. It was a goal scorers goal. Speed cuts to the slot. Lots of time and net to shoot at. Bad dzone coverage again from Anderson incapable of defending speed.

The shooter had a full head of steam and is an nhl sniper. Those guys don’t need much time pick a spot. The goalie was hung out to dry against a hot shooter who has been great for Philly.

Agree to disagree I guess