Huberdeau's agent: "Negativity sucks the joy right out of players"

[Yeah_Baby]

the comments in that article read like this thread, lmao

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by memphusk

I'm old fashioned also I guess. When people are being paid good money I expect them to hold their end of the bargain.

I honestly can't tell if this quote is about Sutter or Huberdeau. Both?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Does he have a short shelf life? If he went as long for the Flames as he did for the kings or sharks for that matter, he would have the longest coaching tenure in franchise history. Also, I remember him leaving to be just the GM very differently. He no longer wanted to be coach/gm/farmer and needed to drop one. His last year as a flames coach was one of their best seasons despite the playoffs. First I've heard that was anything other than a Sutter driven move.

It's tough to say he has a short shelf life or not - but most of his success does come in the first 2-3 years of his tenure.

Hawks made finals in his second year as associate coach, had some playoff success in his last year but resigned after that season after Chris was born.

Sharks were a bit different as more of a "re-building team' he had a .604 season in his 5th, then was fired the next year after 24 games.

In Calgary made the finals in his first full season, resigned after the next year to focus on being GM.

In LA he won the cup in year 1 and 3, missed the playoffs 2 of the next three years, lost in first round the other year.

So either way all of his best success has come in the first three years of a tenure with a team. The re-building Sharks being a bit of an exception - but he was gone 24 games after their best season.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

I’m of this opinion too. Not a lot of guys in that locker room with Sutters experience and history of success. The guys didn’t play well with players coaches, now they’re unhappy under a hard ass. Winning helps!

Most guys in that locker room didn't play under a players coach.

Backlund is the only roster member that played under Gulutzan...I don't think Ward was really a players coach either IMO, he was just kinda boring and implemented a boring system (COLLAPSE! D-zone coverage)

[Strange Brew]

Short term success in LA?
Short shelf life as a coach?

What are the comparables for these comments?

I guess he's not Trotz in Nashville (didn't win anything BTW) or Cooper with Tampa. But his tenure in LA was 6 years, only three current NHL coaches have a longer tenure with their clubs and they have 5 Cups between them.

His record shows he's the opposite of a short shelf coach.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Most guys in that locker room didn't play under a players coach.

Backlund is the only roster member that played under Gulutzan...I don't think Ward was really a players coach either IMO, he was just kinda boring and implemented a boring system (COLLAPSE! D-zone coverage)

Good point.

Regardless the culture of mediocrity has saturated every aspect of this franchise, Sutter is the only person with an elite track record, and we can see how hard it is to change the culture of an organization.

[Strange Brew]

Ward and the soccer games at practice? I thought he fit the profile of a players coach.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I honestly can't tell if this quote is about Sutter or Huberdeau. Both?

Haven't you been reading this thread? Sutter is practically donating his time to be here.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Ward and the soccer games at practice? I thought he fit the profile of a players coach.

He was, but it all changed when he had the sumo suit practice.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by kermitology

What else was Huberdough going to say? He knew. Walsh doesn't do this on his own.

Yep, an agent wouldn’t risk losing millions of dollars on some nothing tweet. His players may not write the tweets, but they all definitely give it the okay. There’s too much on the line for Walsh to go behind a player’s back, doing so would seriously violate trust and that would sour him from current and future prospects as well.

I’ll say this though, if I’m a teammate in that dressing room, I’m not too happy with Huberdeau. The team is in a tight race to make the playoffs and every game is crucial. But instead, their $84M superstar who’s had a terrible year is making it all about him, playing the victim and creating a massive national distraction that ends up dragging them into this juvenile conflict. I definitely wouldn’t be the first to defend this guy who’s had an easy ride yet has played like trash and is about to earn millions upon millions more than me. Athletes and their partners are jealous by nature, so I could see this being a big talking point especially when a guy isn’t earning his paycheck.

It’s gotta feel like when the lazy pampered guy at the office who out earns everyone and has their own corner office with a view complains that their job or life is too hard despite everyone else having to pick up his slack. Everybody hates that guy.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Yep, an agent wouldn’t risk losing millions of dollars on some nothing tweet. His players may not write the tweets, but they all definitely give it the okay. There’s too much on the line for Walsh to go behind a player’s back, doing so would seriously violate trust and that would sour him from current and future prospects as well.

I’ll say this though, if I’m a teammate in that dressing room, I’m not too happy with Huberdeau. The team is in a tight race to make the playoffs and every game is crucial. But instead, their $84M superstar who’s had a terrible year is making it all about him, playing the victim and creating a massive national distraction that ends up dragging them into this juvenile conflict. I definitely wouldn’t be the first to defend this guy who’s had an easy ride yet has played like trash and is about to earn millions upon millions more than me. Athletes and their partners are jealous by nature, so I could see this being a big talking point especially when a guy isn’t earning his paycheck.

It’s gotta feel like when the lazy pampered guy at the office who out earns everyone and has their own corner office with a view complains that their job or life is too hard despite everyone else having to pick up his slack. Everybody hates that guy.

I would be embarrassed if I were Huberdeau. His teammates played their asses off last season to win the division last year. Here he is, soon to be the highest paid player on the team, 52 games into his career as a Flame, and has his agent air his grievances? I would be fine if he was no longer a Flame.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1626687939622354944

[Toonage]

Obviously not an apples to apples comparison but I can't help but look at what happened with Fleury in Vegas shortly after Walsh to went to bat for him on Twitter.

[zunie75]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Considering you missed the point of the post, you're barely worth responding to.

Sutter already had generational wealth. Had nothing left to prove. Zero need to come out of retirement after a career filled with nothing but success.

Huberdeau is freshly off a contract that now guarantees generational wealth, yet he's proven nothing. Won nothing. Talked the talk all summer, but couldn't walk the walk when it came time to do it. And now has an agent cradling him like a parent.

The least Sutter can expect from Huberdeau is to be a professional, play the Sutter way like a professional making $10.5M playing a children's game, and not have his agent whine on social media for him.

Also, I'm quite well aware of Walsh's history, thank you

The fact that Sutter felt he had unfinished business or owed the team something and that's why he came out of retirement, doesn't make him the right coach for the team. Like great, thank you for the loyalty Sutter, now fix your defunct system and play to the strengths of the team.

[Inglewood Jack]

Huberdeau

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Marek and Friedman should zip it instead of being so confident “Walsh doesn’t ever tweet without approval from the player”

BS.

I think with a guy like Walsh the "approval" comes on the day they agree to have him represent them.

Players hire him for his professional judgment. Fans can bemoan him all we want (I find him to be a loathesome, offensive brute), but he gets players the results they desire.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Maybe it's Allan Walsh playing the big brain game? King of taking heat off his clients and the teams they play for?

Everybody talking about a tweet rather than a disastrous game against a "lesser" team.

Walsh playing 4D chess.

I wouldnt call this "TAKING the heat..." off anything.
This is throwing S#17 at someone else.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

Huberdeau

This guys face sorta looks like Valimaki.

[USflamesfan]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1626687939622354944

This interview proves that Eric Francis is a drama queen.

[JohnnyB]

I just kind of think this reflects poorly on Huberdeau.

He's six months into a long-term relationship with a new team and is taking frustrations public through his agent who is taking shots at the coach? This makes everyone involved look bad, including Huberdeau, Sutter, and Treliving.

Nobody held a gun to his head in signing that contract.