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Old 11-03-2021, 05:24 PM   #421
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This is what bad organizations do. If the Flames make this trade they will put the organization back a long time.
Put them back from what exactly? They've been middling at best for the last 16 years. If you can get a bona-fide number 1 center in exchange for a player that isn't worth his qualifying offer and is likely to be gone you do it.
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Could Eichel have a no trade list and the delay is also negotiating with him to waive his destinations?
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Old 11-03-2021, 05:24 PM   #424
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To Cgy: Eichel, Caggiula, 2022 5th (from NJD)
To Buf: 2023 1st, 2024 1st, Wolf, Monahan, Zadorov, Dube
Does your buddy have inside knowledge or is he just like one of us spitballing based on Weekes tweet
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That's a substantial package on offer if true. Would be a monumental trade. I like Tkachuck but I think elite center's being such a rare commodity it would still be a good trade.
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Could Eichel have a no trade list and the delay is also negotiating with him to waive his destinations?
He does have one, though it comes into effect next year, I believe.
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Not sure that notoriously cheap Buffalo would want a guy who is an RFA after this year at around $9 million for year one and probably double digits after that.

If we give up Tkachuk and Valimaki while only getting a few games from Eichel, the odds are that we'll be giving up a pretty decent draft pick.

I don't know if this deal is really one that either side would really love doing.
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Best start in 20 years they said last night on the broadcast.
And they missed the playoffs 20 years ago
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People Need to stop saying things like this.

It will not “murder” anything.
Don't act like subtracting a top line winger is nothing. Every forward line we have would get worse if we just subtract Tkachuk for half the season.
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Could Eichel have a no trade list and the delay is also negotiating with him to waive his destinations?
Eichel’s NTC doesn’t kick in until next off season.
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Could Eichel have a no trade list and the delay is also negotiating with him to waive his destinations?
No.
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Eichel for Daniel Tkaczuk or bust.
Tkaczuk, Fata, Saprykin, and Krahn.

Four first round picks right there. Three of them in the Top 10. What more could Buffalo want?
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Don't act like subtracting a top line winger is nothing. Every forward line we have would get worse if we just subtract Tkachuk for half the season.
He’s the 4th leading scorer on the team, not the 1st.

Trading Gaudreau, now that would make everyone on the team worse.

We’d find a way.
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Could Eichel have a no trade list and the delay is also negotiating with him to waive his destinations?
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Could Eichel have a no trade list and the delay is also negotiating with him to waive his destinations?
Nope. He said he would go to the team that makes the move.
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It probably has to do with one or more teams saying take it, or we pull the offers and move on. The teams involved should all get together and give the Sabres a deadline to accept. Enough of their nonsense.
If this is true then this will probably go down as one of the all time great Flames trades.

IMO the player we'll miss most a few years from now in this deal is Valimaki, not Chucky.

But it won't matter because we'll have one of the games best players (can't say that about Chucky or Valimaki).
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...I don't know if this deal is really one that either side would really love doing.
Which probably means that this is the deal that gets it done.
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Always hate seeing names being leaked in trades before it's done, especially from reputable sources. Hate to end up with another Brodie situation. Now it feels like we almost have to trade Tkachuk.
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Don't act like subtracting a top line winger is nothing. Every forward line we have would get worse if we just subtract Tkachuk for half the season.
It is not nothing. But, by the same token it is definitely not everything either.
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