[Rumour] Kadri used his NTC to nix a trade to the Flames involving TJ Brodie

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

You dump two contracts you want to get rid of and get the best player in the deal?

Jersey takes on Froliks contract AND 50% of Brodie together? Seems like Jerseys purpose in this trade is just to help the Flames. They don't get much out of it.

Of the Flames deal was true in guessing it was likely Brodie and Bennet. Jankowski and Kerfoot are not even close.

Brodie is arguably the best player in the deal. Kadri has the better contract but the top pairing D is more valuable than the 2nd line C

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

You dump two contracts you want to get rid of and get the best player in the deal?

Jersey takes on Froliks contract AND 50% of Brodie together? Seems like Jerseys purpose in this trade is just to help the Flames. They don't get much out of it.

Of the Flames deal was true in guessing it was likely Brodie and Bennet. Jankowski and Kerfoot are not even close.

Well the rumour from Friedman is jersey was in on frolik for a late pick, so getting him essentially free is a better deal than what is rumoured to be on the table. It's further incentive to want to take part of Brodie's salary. Frolik + Brown is better than just Connor brown and more in line with what I think might convince jersey to pay money for a player not playing for them.

That's kind of what I'm struggling with, Brown does not seem like enough of a return for ~2 million on cash/cap. Maybe the 3rd Toronto dealt to Colorado would've gone to Jersey.

Or maybe it was more like

Calgary: kadri
Toronto: Brodie
Jersey: Brown, jankowski, Brodie 50%

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Or maybe it was more like

Calgary: kadri
Toronto: Brodie
Jersey: Brown, jankowski, Brodie 50%

Calgary gets raped in that deal. Massively.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by New Era

Calgary gets raped in that deal. Massively.

It's not really rape if there's written consent.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by New Era

Calgary gets raped in that deal. Massively.

This isnt any different than the deal that is rumoured to almost have been completed except jersey gets janko instead of Toronto.

Maybe we could also find terminology for a lopsided professional sports trade besides 'rape'.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by New Era

Calgary gets raped in that deal. Massively.

Cringe.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Brodie is arguably the best player in the deal. Kadri has the better contract but the top pairing D is more valuable than the 2nd line C

Brodie was a #2 and a #5 in a game. Hard to gauge what he is now. I'd say a solid 2nd pairing guy at this point.

[ricardodw]

Long thread and maybe it is mentioned but Kadri and Rosen and a 3rd got traded for Barrie and Kerfoot.

Barrie is equal to Brodie, Kerfoot is pretty much at the same point as Elias Lindholm was when Carolina included him in the Hamilton trade.


What asset could of the Flames included with Brodie to make the trade as good for the Leafs as the Avs offer?


Bennett? Ryan? IMHO that would be a stretch compared to Kerfoot

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Long thread and maybe it is mentioned but Kadri and Rosen and a 3rd got traded for Barrie and Kerfoot.

Barrie is equal to Brodie, Kerfoot is pretty much at the same point as Elias Lindholm was when Carolina included him in the Hamilton trade.


What asset could of the Flames included with Brodie to make the trade as good for the Leafs as the Avs offer?


Bennett? Ryan? IMHO that would be a stretch compared to Kerfoot

Rumour was Jankowski was the add in. I agree though, Kadri ended up doing Toronto a favour by not waiving his NTC, they definitely got a better deal from the Avs

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Long thread and maybe it is mentioned but Kadri and Rosen and a 3rd got traded for Barrie and Kerfoot.

Barrie is equal to Brodie, Kerfoot is pretty much at the same point as Elias Lindholm was when Carolina included him in the Hamilton trade.


What asset could of the Flames included with Brodie to make the trade as good for the Leafs as the Avs offer?


Bennett? Ryan? IMHO that would be a stretch compared to Kerfoot

I'm sorry, what?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I'm sorry, what?

Two 40 point seasons as a 2nd line C?

Lindholm had 4, but still fairly similar.

If kerfoot gets top line minutes as Lindholm did I could see a big breakout.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Long thread and maybe it is mentioned but Kadri and Rosen and a 3rd got traded for Barrie and Kerfoot.

Barrie is equal to Brodie, Kerfoot is pretty much at the same point as Elias Lindholm was when Carolina included him in the Hamilton trade.


What asset could of the Flames included with Brodie to make the trade as good for the Leafs as the Avs offer?


Bennett? Ryan? IMHO that would be a stretch compared to Kerfoot

The deal that seems to be known at this stage was:

To Calgary: Brown, Kadri
To Toronto: Brodie, Jankowski

To 3rd Team: Brown
To Calgary: Unknown return

This trade was reportedly nixed by Kadri using his NTC, so Toronto and Calgary had come to an agreement with the pieces above.

[GioforPM]

Talked to a big Leafs fan yesterday (he's otherwise a perfectly normal guy) who figured Kadri did the Leafs a huge favour because the return from the deal they ended up withw as much better. He figured Brodie isn't what the Leafs need at all (he and I agreed Hamonic is what they really need).

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Two 40 point seasons as a 2nd line C?

Lindholm had 4, but still fairly similar.

If kerfoot gets top line minutes as Lindholm did I could see a big breakout.

I think you could argue Kerfoot has overachieved, while Lindholm had been underachieving though.

Kerfoot is also 4 months older than Lindholm (now, not at the time of the trade).

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Two 40 point seasons as a 2nd line C?

Lindholm had 4, but still fairly similar.

If kerfoot gets top line minutes as Lindholm did I could see a big breakout.

There is still the fact Kerfoot was a 5th round pick and Lindholm was a 5th overall pick so viewing them at 23/24 as the same value is another example of brutal logic from a poster that is famous for it.

Just like your guy Puljujarvi. Do he and Mangipane have the same value in a trade? Mangipane scores twice as many goals in 2 less games last year but I would think league wide JP would still hold significantly more value in a trade.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think you could argue Kerfoot has overachieved, while Lindholm had been underachieving though.

Kerfoot is also 4 months older than Lindholm (now, not at the time of the trade).

They age differently?!

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think you could argue Kerfoot has overachieved, while Lindholm had been underachieving though.

Kerfoot is also 4 months older than Lindholm (now, not at the time of the trade).

You could argue anything.

You could even argue that Kerfoot could be more productive if he was slotted with linemates the calibre of Gaudreau and Monahan.

Perhaps he would then over-overachieve

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Long thread and maybe it is mentioned but Kadri and Rosen and a 3rd got traded for Barrie and Kerfoot.

Barrie is equal to Brodie, Kerfoot is pretty much at the same point as Elias Lindholm was when Carolina included him in the Hamilton trade.

What asset could of the Flames included with Brodie to make the trade as good for the Leafs as the Avs offer?

Bennett? Ryan? IMHO that would be a stretch compared to Kerfoot

I’m confused.

Alexander Kerfoot recorded only three assists in thirteen playoff games, which by your upside-down metrics would make him utterly worthless.


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[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

They age differently?!

Kerfoot has the Benjamin Button disease.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Brodie is arguably the best player in the deal. Kadri has the better contract but the top pairing D is more valuable than the 2nd line C

3 years of Kadri at a very good cap hit is worth way more than 1 year of Brodie with a good cap hit.