[Rumour] McKenzie: dealbreaker for Flames is that Sens want Valimaki in Stone package

[underGRADFlame]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

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Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
At last check #Flames still very interested in Mark Stone, but Ottawa’s price is “ridiculously high”.

Sense is Sens starting point is multiple 1sts + one of Valimaki, Andersson, Kylington + more. Calgary extremely happy with current group. Not willing to sell the farm.

If Stone is signed then I'd be fine with 2019 1st, 2020 2nd (goes to a 1st if we make conference finals) Kylington, and Dube/Philips but he needs to be signed.

[FlamesAddiction]

Yeah, that is too much, especially considering the contract Stone is going to want in order to not be a rental.

I think they should focus on Hayes at this point.

[AC]

Isn't two 1sts + Kylington + something else what is most often suggested?

Sounds exactly what we expected.

[Love]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Yeah, screw him for looking out for his own organization instead of doing us favours, amirite?

Don't quote me moron if you take everything uber-literally on the internet

[atb]

This is the ask for an unsigned Stone? Wow

[jg13]

No team is going to pay that price for a rental and Ottawa has to move him.

If i'm a betting man that price is going to drop tomorrow.

[ComixZone]

If anyone was willing to pay that, it’d be paid already. It’ll be interesting to see what the final package looks like, but it won’t be that. No, it won’t be that.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by AC

Isn't two 1sts + Kylington + something else what is most often suggested?

Sounds exactly what we expected.

Yeah. I'd give that up if we are sure Stone is signed. Tre will only do it if that is the case.

[burn_this_city]

Hold out and the price should drop.

[Jore]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Yeah, screw him for looking out for his own organization instead of doing us favours, amirite?

he gifts away karlsson and hoffman for a song, plays hardball with the flames lol. already squeezed a 2nd for lazar out of us, what more does he want?

[Haplo]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

1st, conditional 1st for re-signing, Kylington, Phillips, and another small add if needed.

Giving up a 1st and a very talended young D-man for one playoff run is the kind of thing that leads a team into a decade of mediocrity down the line.

[browna]

Not a huge surprise that's what the ask is or originally was. If the Sens would settle on something less as one of the pieces, Flames may be willing.

Hayes and Simmonds can be had for less. And rent one and keep one come July 1.

[Hackey]

Im confused why people are surprised with this ask. Hasnt it been discussed for the last day or two on here it probably takes a 1st, Kylington, and a lesser piece to land him? Then another conditional 1st if he re-signs.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jore

he gifts away karlsson and hoffman for a song, plays hardball with the flames lol. already squeezed a 2nd for lazar out of us, what more does he want?

Almost like there are different circumstances surrounding each guy and their particular situation.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Yeah. I'd give that up if we are sure Stone is signed. Tre will only do it if that is the case.

I don't believe he gives up that much even for a signed Stone.

[Robbob]

I think the roster player would be Frolik. Ottawa needs some salary for next year to get to the floor. Frolik only has one year let.plus he is a hard worker which would be a good vet influence on the younglings.

2 1st (one conditional) klington, and frolik.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Yeah, screw him for looking out for his own organization instead of doing us favours, amirite?

Yes absolutely.

I hope they mess this up, miss the deadline, fail to meet negotiation terms, then watch in tears as dear old Mark jumps ship and leaves them with nothing in UFA.

[The Boy Wonder]

Not surprising that’s the ask.

Should come down tomorrow.

Wouldn’t do that even if he’s signed. Problem is cap next year almost requires that our package for them is 1st, dube, Brodie and maybe an additional pick

[Bunk]

I imagine the point of negotiations being Sens want either Andersson or Valimaki, Flames willing to give Kylington.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I think the roster player would be Frolik. Ottawa needs some salary for next year to get to the floor. Frolik only has one year let.plus he is a hard worker which would be a good vet influence on the younglings.

And Frolik has a limited NTC.

One has to believe that Ottawa is atop that list along with Shelbyville.