PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Drak

I'm more excited for her shop till you drop campaign.

I feel like she's been waiting for the end of the campaign to leave him. It's probably about time for Trump to trade her in for a younger model anyway.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I feel like she's been waiting for the end of the campaign to leave him. It's probably about time for Trump to trade her in for a younger model anyway.

I think his daughter is already married

Ba-Dum Tish

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Drak

I'm more excited for her shop till you drop campaign.

Or the "just lay back and try to think happy thoughts until it's over" campaign.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I feel like she's been waiting for the end of the campaign to leave him. It's probably about time for Trump to trade her in for a younger model anyway.

Well he can always deport her now and import his new bride.

[Drak]

Here's what gets me. One of the qualifications for presidents has been a stable family values marriage, or the mirage of one. Not that I care about that. But Trump's been married what? Three times? Committed adultery? Then there's the entire bit about being a change non establishment candidate. But then who are the folks on his cabinet? Some of the worst career politicians imaginable. Newt Gingrich? Rudy Giuliani? What?

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Small consolation for the Dems but they won NH both in the general and for Senate.

I'm finding it fascinating that despite Trump, whom many people predicted would be a disaster for the Republican Party, the voters actually did the opposite and now the House and the Senate are all controlled by the Republicans. Yet at the same time many 'liberal' propositions around the country also passed and maybe that was due to the states in which they were held. California, Nevada, Maine, and Massachusetts all voted to legalize marijuana, Colorado passed an assisted suicide ballot, and several states votes to raise minimum wage.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Well he can always deport her now and import his new bride.

He does purportedly have a 'Good Relationship' with Russia.

Maybe if he gets a Ukrainian Bride he can annex them as the 51st state and we can all have WW3!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by polak

The racist label didn't come from wanting to stop illegal immigration. It came from wanting to stop and even kick out muslims.

And essentially blaming them, Mexicans, and basically any other "not straight white male" for a number of problems.

But it's more convenient to pass off concerns of racism as unfounded due to "he is just against illegals"

Convenient, but not accurate or showing any signs of having listened.

[stampsx2]

Trump says he's going to build a wall. The media: he doesn't want any Mexicans in America. Reality: he doesn't want criminal Mexicans in America. 30% of Mexicans who voted yesterday agreed with trump.

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by Drak

Here's what gets me. One of the qualifications for presidents has been a stable family values marriage, or the mirage of one. Not that I care about that. But Trump's been married what? Three times? Committed adultery? Then there's the entire bit about being a change non establishment candidate. But then who are the folks on his cabinet? Some of the worst career politicians imaginable. Newt Gingrich? Rudy Giuliani? What?

Bill Clinton?

[troutman]

"Just as Minnesotans did when they elected a former professional wrestler as governor, Americans disgusted with the establishment indulged their mischievous, anarchic side, and pulled the lever for the man who would disturb things the most. This is what happens when the people no longer trust their ruling bodies." Michael Moore foresaw this result in July, and explained why it could happen:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...chael-moo.html

[bob-loblaw]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I am looking forward to Melania's anti cyber bullying campaign.

Well, Michelle Obama has given her lots to plagiarize over the last month so it may turn out well after all.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by nemanja2306

Bill Clinton?

What about him?

[Looch City]

So has Trump tweeted anything yet?

I'd imagine that account would be purged and cleaned up...unless they want the President of the United States of America to live with that sort of history haha

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Drak

Here's what gets me. One of the qualifications for presidents has been a stable family values marriage, or the mirage of one.

Can you really suggest that Hilary and Bill have a more stable family values marriage though?

At best Bill lied about his adultery under oath. At worst, he raped and sexually assaulted his victims and Hilary tried to shut them up...

That's the problem with the Hilary vs Trump vote. A lot of the otherwise immediate reason not to vote for one or the other is cancelled out by the other.

[automaton 3]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Damn effective writing by Glenn Greenwald
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Maybe America has this more figured out than I thought. Maybe.

I think he nailed it. Thanks again for posting this.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Drak

Here's what gets me. One of the qualifications for presidents has been a stable family values marriage, or the mirage of one. Not that I care about that. But Trump's been married what? Three times? Committed adultery? Then there's the entire bit about being a change non establishment candidate. But then who are the folks on his cabinet? Some of the worst career politicians imaginable. Newt Gingrich? Rudy Giuliani? What?

Yeah, that's what I find funniest. There's the overarching narrative that people want change and want to throw a bull into the china shop to rid government of corruption and ties with big business. But then they elect a billionaire big businessman and his cohort of largely discredited career politicians and give the keys to a pro-big business and pro-elites party who have had the legislative majority for most of the last 20 years that has produced what they seem to hate (Iraq War leading to destabilization of the Middle East, deregulation of financial markets that led to 2008, etc.).

That said, I'm not sure that the movement for change is quite as powerful as people seem to be suggesting or that the Democratic Party is teetering on the brink of collapse. This was still an exceedingly close election where Clinton won the popular vote and had about 50-60K votes in a few key states gone the other way she would've won. This is nothing like the 2008 election where Obama won by 10 million votes and the Democrats ended up with a 17 seat advantage in the Senate and a majority in the house.

[OldDutch]

I tried to scan through all the pages here if anyone from the US who voted Trump has come in to explain why. I did that last night with a friend in Florida. Honestly, we can throw the racism card around and white privilege and whatever other crux Liberals fall on rather than face facts. However, the truth is much more complex than many here probably understand since they don't live there.

People upset need to realize the vote wasn't just about ignorance, racisim, or whatever else. Lots of people were sick of Obama. Ya, you can say that is racist, or you can look deeper. He really hasn't improved the life for most people after 2008. Minorities especially. Being who he was, he could get the black vote out to actually vote. 8 years later and Hillary couldn't do that.

Also, a lot of jobs have been lots by middle class whites. Heck lots of educated technical folks are being outsourced to China and India. Really the rich under Obama have appeared to get richer, and the average person is lost regardless of race. This is the sentiment I get.

Hillary was viewed as establishment. More of the same that wasn't working. People down there are desperate and there are lots of them. Obama did bring class and elegant speaking but that has not resonated out to the people.

I am no way saying Trump is going to fix that. In fact he will probably make it worse. What I am saying is the other side needs to calm down and get the facts. Why did the minority vote not bother? Why did Latinos vote more for Trump than Romney? Why couldn't Hillary get people out to vote? Why did the DNC hand pick her and push Bernie aside?

All valid questions that don't involve sexism or racism. When your life is bleek your not above asking a brash a-hole for help if he is your only perceived option.

[Locke]

I'm not saying, I'm just saying, the Gaudreau re-signing thread was 32 pages.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Can you really suggest that Hilary and Bill have a more stable family values marriage though?

At best Bill lied about his adultery under oath. At worst, he raped and sexually assaulted his victims and Hilary tried to shut them up...

That's the problem with the Hilary vs Trump vote. A lot of the otherwise immediate reason not to vote for one or the other is cancelled out by the other.

Aside from the conspiracy part of your post, is reading comprehension an issue with some posters? Was Bill Clinton running for President? Was Hillary Clinton billing herself as a non-career politician? The party of family values is pretty hypocritical here when they complain about career politicians and family values but then run a candidate that forms a cabinet full of career politicians that have had multiple marriages and cheated on their wives.