[GDT] Young Stars Classic: The Battle of Alberta (8:30 PM MT)

[AC]

Ran into Parsons, Burke, Falkovsky, Kravchenko, and Dyukov late after the game.

Parsons and Burke are beauties. Both came over to us as we were still in Flames jerseys and shook all our hands and chatted.

Parsons said he'll see us in Calgary in a couple of years.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Kinda wish we didn't let Colborne go.

Great 3rd liner that can play up, and a shootout specialist. Was finally starting to find his groove.

I wish we had found a way to keep Joe too, but as many will point out he wouldn't sign at the time for our dime.
Maybe I didn't read a post further back, but unclear what he has to do with this tourney. Something to do with the running slower faster bigger smaller Colborne CP humor routine I missed perhaps.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

McDonald did not have great numbers like Parsons did and at this point is probably already the worse prospect, but these numbers are still highly dependant on where the shots are coming from:



On the left is a .902 goaltender, on the right is a .919 goaltender. Same league.

Basically on the same locations of shots, they have roughly the same percentages. But one guy faced many many more medium / high danger shots while the other faced many more low danger shots. Is the latter a better goaltender?

I 100% agree with your assessment and I think it's an important point, but there are still reasons to be concerned with McDonald's play. My viewing sample is admittedly limited, but he seems to have issues with consistency and making the simple saves at times. That's a red flag for any goalie that wants to make the NHL.

Can he work on this? Yes, and it's possible that he gets better at it, but it is concerning. Consistency is the hallmark of a good goalie, because no matter how many great high danger saves you make that you shouldn't, if you let a softie in it effects the entire team's confidence in you, and in turn their style of play for the rest of the game. We saw this with Ramo and Hiller last year for example. Part of being a good goalie is making a key save at a key moment to give your team a chance to recover from a poor play. McDonald's timing seems to be pretty poor in that regard, but I admit, it's from limited viewings.

He could do well by playing an entire season as the starter in Adirondack and learning how to come up big for his team. He's a long way from the NHL at the moment.

[Caged Great]

When it comes to goalies, anything before 22/23 is pretty much irrelevant in terms of results. Obviously, making the easier saves like MCD's first two goals against would be better than surrendering goals, but it doesn't matter. If he continues for the next two years to play at a similar level without improvement, then it'll be more of a worry. However, you could say that literally about any single prospect. Also, some of the ways goalies improve are virtually undetectable unless you're specifically looking at things like hand placement and other similar minor things. Those improvements might not immediately show in the stats also as the player adjusts to the adjustments. It's a work in progress. McDonald has always been a fundamentally sound goaltender, just rough around the edges. He still is, just like pretty much any prospect is as they are on their way out of juniors.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Very unimpressed with Tkachuk this game. Too many stupid plays, and not fast enough to recover when he gave the puck over. I hope this is just a product of him trying to make himself noticed.

Kylington was also noticeable, in many good ways, but also in that he always drifts too deep in the offensive zone after making a play. Again, probably just young and trying to make himself noticed, but neither player looks nearly refined enough to make the jump at this point, in my opinion.

[red sky]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Very unimpressed with Tkachuk this game. Too many stupid plays, and not fast enough to recover when he gave the puck over. I hope this is just a product of him trying to make himself noticed.

Kylington was also noticeable, in many good ways, but also in that he always drifts too deep in the offensive zone after making a play. Again, probably just young and trying to make himself noticed, but neither player looks nearly refined enough to make the jump at this point, in my opinion.

I'll add that Tkachuk was also guilty of turning the puck over on his entries and a few too many blind passes right to opposing defenders. Definitely won't go unnoticed either way.

[Galakanokis]

I need Lomberg to make the Flames so I can say "Hell, Lomberg ####ed 'em." Every time he scores a game winner or draws a penalty for being a little pest.

That' d be great.

[heep223]

I don't think Tkachuk is going to make the team either. He is oozing with potential but very raw. I was impressed with his skating based on what I'd heard - it's not going to be a strength but I don't think it will hold him back. It really sucks that he can't go pro and spend the year in Stockton.

Jankowski I think will challenge for a spot but ultimately will end up in Stockton this season. Super impressed with his progression though. He tries to do too much sometimes but he looked dominant out there. I don't know where he is going to fit into the Flames lineup though. I wonder if he eventually makes Backlund expendable, when Backlund is looking for his career payday.

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Andrew Mangiapane

I was expecting more from him seeing as how he was here last year. I thought he looked better last year... nothing spectacular this year so far..inconsistent (maybe needs better line mates?)... Tuulola looked real good at times, Aagard looks like hes gonna be a good one ... Hope we sign him ....

lots to like from these kids...lots of rough edges

[gunnner]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Most of who? Did you take a poll?

World junoirs....so the world saw that.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by heep223

Jankowski tries to do too much sometimes but he looked dominant out there. I don't know where he is going to fit into the Flames lineup though. I wonder if he eventually makes Backlund expendable, when Backlund is looking for his career payday.

Not gonna develop into a 6'4" Datsyuk by sticking to the KISS principle!

[sun]

Tkachuk must have been pretty revved up again to take another stupid, dirty 4 minute minor. Speared someone in a scrum this time?

Didn't watch the whole game, but I really like the looks of this Fatmus kid. Think we've got ourselves a keeper there. Smart player. Not so sure about Kylington, but he's got potential for sure. Needs to reign it in a bit, maybe?

[AC]

Kylington made a couple really nice plays to create grade A scoring chances, but also made a big mistake that cost us the OT goal.

Sounds about right.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sun

Tkachuk must have been pretty revved up again to take another stupid, dirty 4 minute minor. Speared someone in a scrum this time?

Didn't watch the whole game, but I really like the looks of this Fatmus kid. Think we've got ourselves a keeper there. Smart player. Not so sure about Kylington, but he's got potential for sure. Needs to reign it in a bit, maybe?

I'd prefer Kylington to take all sorts of risks, only way he's going to get proficient at it is to keep playing the way he plays and learns what will work and what won't. That last play of the game, it had a low percentage probability of working, but he wouldn't find that out unless he tried.
As for Anderssen, I figure he'll push hard again this year like he did last camp. He's good, and if his conditioning has improved, he's going to be someone to watch for next week.

[FeyWest]

Originally Posted by AC

Kylington made a couple really nice plays to create grade A scoring chances, but also made a big mistake that cost us the OT goal.

Sounds about right.

Kylington is the definition of a "Glass Tank" Defender, High offensive instincts but plays too many of the High Risk plays, he just needs to pick his spots a bit more carefully; a lot like Brodie does.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Honestly I think that mistake was more from the way 3on3 tends to go then anything Kylington did. Yeah, he jumped up but that's 3on3, he went for it and the play went back the other way, goalie didn't make the big save that's needed in that situation, game over.

[The Fonz]

In my very limited viewing, say 30 mins of game play, Kylington reminded me a lot of how Brodie was in his first couple pro seasons. It took me a while longer than most to really get excited about Brodie, as I felt he played a high risk, high turnover game.

If Kylington can learn to pick his spots half as well as Brodie did, we've got a real good player.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Honestly I think that mistake was more from the way 3on3 tends to go then anything Kylington did. Yeah, he jumped up but that's 3on3, he went for it and the play went back the other way, goalie didn't make the big save that's needed in that situation, game over.

Yeah I can't fault a defenseman on a 3v3 format. If they don't jump up, you'll never score

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

In my very limited viewing, say 30 mins of game play, Kylington reminded me a lot of how Brodie was in his first couple pro seasons. It took me a while longer than most to really get excited about Brodie, as I felt he played a high risk, high turnover game.

If Kylington can learn to pick his spots half as well as Brodie did, we've got a real good player.

Brodie, but with Giordano's ability to get shots through.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by sun

Tkachuk must have been pretty revved up again to take another stupid, dirty 4 minute minor. Speared someone in a scrum this time?

No mention of his goal though, huh? Nice to know what you're going to be keying in on in watching him moving forward.