Eight teams at least allows all the conference champions to make it so you never end up with this years Ohio/PSU debate. If they go to eight though they should do my proposal where the conference champions get the 1 to 5 seeds and the 8th seed is reserved for the best minor conference team. This would have created the following playoff:
1 Alabama vs 8 Western Michigan
2 Clemson vs 7 Michigan
3 Washington vs 6 Ohio State
4 Penn State vs 5 Oklahoma
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Eight teams at least allows all the conference champions to make it so you never end up with this years Ohio/PSU debate. If they go to eight though they should do my proposal where the conference champions get the 1 to 5 seeds and the 8th seed is reserved for the best minor conference team. This would have created the following playoff:
1 Alabama vs 8 Western Michigan
2 Clemson vs 7 Michigan
3 Washington vs 6 Ohio State
4 Penn State vs 5 Oklahoma
Let's make it 32. Since it's participation ribbons for all. With 8 they might as well have not played osu vs Michigan.
Again, this year is not an argument for a bigger field. Nobody can say with a straight face after all of that, that there is any question what so ever, who the best team is.
My god, who on earth thinks Western Michigan is a top 8 team, teams are 85 deep and to a person, every top conference team is better athlete to athlete than western.
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It should stay four teams. but make qualification automatic and not leave it to a committee or the BCS. Just go with four 12 team superconferences. You play the 11 other teams in your division, no out of conference games Then the top two teams play for conference champion, then the playoff. Still keeps it to 14 games max so shouldn't be any scheduling changes.
Now of course eliminating 70+ teams out of ever getting a chance to win the NCAA title will probably never pass, and figuring out which 48 teams to choose will be tough (probably need soccer style relegation/promotion), but one can dream. But until there is defined criteria to making the playoff (namely automatic qualification), whether it's 2, 4, 8 or 16, someone is always going to have a gripe.
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It should stay four teams. but make qualification automatic and not leave it to a committee or the BCS. Just go with four 12 team superconferences. You play the 11 other teams in your division, no out of conference games Then the top two teams play for conference champion, then the playoff. Still keeps it to 14 games max so shouldn't be any scheduling changes.
Now of course eliminating 70+ teams out of ever getting a chance to win the NCAA title will probably never pass, and figuring out which 48 teams to choose will be tough (probably need soccer style relegation/promotion), but one can dream. But until there is defined criteria to making the playoff (namely automatic qualification), whether it's 2, 4, 8 or 16, someone is always going to have a gripe.
Agreed that four teams is sufficient. The issue with the second portion of your idea is there are 5 major conferences that came together to agree on the current format so which one would be left out of the playoff picture permanently? Big 12, Big 10, Pac 12, SEC, and ACC.
Yeah and the conferences thing is ultimately the problem. If everyone were Notre Dame or BYU this could easily be done. I would eliminate the Big 12 and allocate it's potential superconference teams accordingly. The Big 10 is essentially the Midwest conference and the SEC the Southern conference, so the Big 12 is overlap really. The bigger issue would be determining the 48 teams to begin with. Like right now Texas, one of the biggest schools (regardless of ranking), would absolutely not be in that 48 teams. So determining the structure to make it work would be difficult.
And like I said soccer style promotion/relegation would have to part of it to placate the other 70 or so Division I teams. Ultimately the best way to do this is to have it so there's no selection committee. It works for basketball because leaving out the 69th best team in America is nowhere near as unfair as leaving out the 5th best team, especially when 20% of Div I schools make the tournament as opposed to about 3% of football teams making the playoff. It's why there's never any controversy in professional sports about playoff spots, qualifying is defined. With the BCS and now the playoff committee, the definition is obviously vague.
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Money drives all decisions and removing conferences, getting rid of non-conference games and cutting out the smaller schools will never fly. It kinda sucks, but it isn't worth getting upset over because it probably will never change.
Short of just telling the small schools to eff off, which would in turn screw over the FCS teams who would now effectively be the 3rd tier of football.
I think we just have to try and make the best about debating the rankings and having fun coming up with dream scenarios like super conferences with a relegation/promotion system for the FCS champ.
It also occurred to me while reading some wiki pages that the BCS only seems good in hindsight. In reality is sucked, big time.
There were so many years of controversy in the early 2000s. Seems like there were 5 or 6 consecutive years where there was a huge controversy about the BCS selections. Widening the field has helped so much, even if it has shifted the debate down the ladder.
But at the end of the day, I am so glad we are arguing about Washington or Mich/PSU etc instead of arguing about Bama vs Clemson or OSU for the national championship. God that would suck. When you think of the alternative and how this year would have turned out under the old system, it makes me really appreciate the playoff, even if it isn't perfect itself.
It looks like they will open the 2017 season in Sydney again with Stanford vs Rice. The Cardinals will be great to watch but I wish they were playing a better opponent than Rice.
Louisville's Lamar Jackson has won the Heisman Trophy.
Great player and deserved to win in what was a not so stellar Heisman class this year. I know he's 19 and was probably really nervous but I couldn't understand half of what he was saying. It makes you wonder what these kids are majoring in or if they're even taking classes at all.
Also, why the hell was Johnny ###### bag on stage? That was really a turn off for me.
Yeah... so? You don't have to put him on stage. We all know how much he loves the spotlight.
The guy's just a terrible human being. Numerous arrests which includes assaulting his girlfriend, been in rehab numerous times and is just a spoiled brat. He's not a guy who I would be showcasing on stage allowing him to congratulate the next Heisman winner. What a role model!
In saying all that, I hope he turns his life around. You never like to see people struggle, especially with alcohol and drugs. You know it's time to make a change when his own father suggests that he is worried his son will not live to see his 24th birthday.
Let's go bowling! One of my favorite times of the year. It all starts this Saturday and ends in Tampa on Jan 9 with the NCG.
Here is the schedule:
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College Football Playoff schedule
Dec. 31
College Football Playoff semifinal at the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 4 Washington vs. No. 1 Alabama
3 p.m., ESPN
Georgia Dome, Atlanta
College Football Playoff semifinal at the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl
No. 3 Ohio State vs. No. 2 Clemson
7 p.m., ESPN
University of Phoenix Stadium, Glendale, Ariz.
Jan. 9
College Football Playoff National Championship
8 p.m., ESPN
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla.
Complete bowl schedule
Dec. 17
Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
North Carolina Central vs. Grambling
12 p.m., ABC
Georgia Dome, Atlanta
Gildan New Mexico Bowl
New Mexico vs. UTSA
2 p.m., ESPN
University Stadium, Albuquerque, N.M.
Las Vegas Bowl Presented by Geico
Houston vs. San Diego State
3:30 p.m., ABC
Sam Boyd Stadium, Las Vegas
Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Appalachian State vs. Toledo
5:30 p.m., ESPN
Cramton Bowl, Montgomery, Ala.
AutoNation Cure Bowl
UCF vs. Arkansas State
5:30 p.m., CBS Sports Network
Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Fla.
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Southern Mississippi vs. Louisiana-Lafayette
9 p.m., ESPN
Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans
Dec. 19
Miami Beach Bowl
Central Michigan vs. Tulsa
2:30 p.m., ESPN
Marlins Park, Miami
Dec. 20
Boca Raton Bowl
Memphis vs. Western Kentucky
7 p.m., ESPN
FAU Stadium, Boca Raton, Fla.
Dec. 21
San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl
BYU vs. Wyoming
9 p.m., ESPN
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego
Dec. 22
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Idaho vs. Colorado State
7 p.m., ESPN
Albertsons Stadium, Boise, Idaho
Dec. 23
Popeyes Bahamas Bowl
1 p.m., ESPN
Thomas A. Robinson National Stadium, Nassau, Bahamas
Eastern Michigan vs. Old Dominion
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Louisiana Tech vs. No. 25 Navy
4:30 p.m., ESPN
Amon G. Carter Stadium, Fort Worth, Texas
Dollar General Bowl
Ohio vs. Troy
8 p.m., ESPN
Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, Ala.
Smart by both Fournette and McCaffrey to skip their respective bowl games. It makes sense to do that, just look at what happened to Jaylon Smith. I won't even be mad if Peppers decides to (but I doubt he will).
Smart by both Fournette and McCaffrey to skip their respective bowl games. It makes sense to do that, just look at what happened to Jaylon Smith. I won't even be mad if Peppers decides to (but I doubt he will).
Smart for personal reasons, but also selfish. Wonder how many NFL teams would see that as a negative?
Smart for personal reasons, but also selfish. Wonder how many NFL teams would see that as a negative?
I'm going to go with none. Selfish? Every bowl game outside of the playoff is meaningless. I have zero problem with players sitting out. If Tostitos or GoDaddy or Beef O' Brady (#NeverForget) want to compensate the players who are giving them their free advertising then maybe I'll agree that they're being selfish. Until then it's a risk/reward that could cost them millions of dollars for nothing. I don't know that hoisting the majestic Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl trophy is worth it.
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