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Old 04-02-2016, 01:22 PM   #421
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idk I just hate the fact that our 4th line plus 3rd D pairing is like over 25% of our capspace. We have the guys internally to replace Stajan and Bouma and could save almost 4 million. That has to be worth something
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:35 PM   #422
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This thread has been anti-Jankowski'd
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:45 PM   #423
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Well... I'd wager he plays more than 9 games next year. How many 210+ pound forwards do we have? Jankowski has 5 months to put on 10 pounds, easy for a 22 year old that's 6'4.

Remember Chris Breen? Even he got a few games.

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Old 04-02-2016, 01:46 PM   #424
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This thread has been anti-Jankowski'd
Usually the opposite happens.
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Without Smid, Stajan, Engelland, Raymond...

we could be throwing money at Stamkos this offseason.
then those are great contracts
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Stajan at 3.25 million is the worst contract on the team. Wideman managed 50 points and Smid is LTIR half the time. That leaves your 4th line centre who's not even an energy player making money you would expect from a high end 3rd line forward
Stajan at 3.125 AAV playing in the NHL is worse than Raymond at 3.15 AAV playing in the AHL and Smid at 3.5 AAV almost never playing even when healthy?

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MarkGio said Stajan has the worst contract on the team. Yeah, I think Stajan's contract is worse than Raymond's, since it has an extra year on it.

At least he's playing, but I think his contract damages the team just as much for the long term.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:13 PM   #428
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MarkGio said Stajan has the worst contract on the team. Yeah, I think Stajan's contract is worse than Raymond's, since it has an extra year on it.

At least he's playing, but I think his contract damages the team just as much for the long term.
There is a significant difference, Stajan is overpaid by about a million but has a place on this team and is important to the room, the other 2 shouldn't even be in the league. The extra year does not make it worse, nothing makes it worse.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:23 PM   #429
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MarkGio said Stajan has the worst contract on the team. Yeah, I think Stajan's contract is worse than Raymond's, since it has an extra year on it.

At least he's playing, but I think his contract damages the team just as much for the long term.
Stajan is still an NHL player. Smid and Raymond aren't anymore.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:28 PM   #430
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Stajan at 3.125 AAV playing in the NHL is worse than Raymond at 3.15 AAV playing in the AHL and Smid at 3.5 AAV almost never playing even when healthy?

Both Raymond and Smid are expiring. Raymond also gives a 0.900K reduction to his salary by playing in the AHL.
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There is a significant difference, Stajan is overpaid by about a million but has a place on this team and is important to the room, the other 2 shouldn't even be in the league. The extra year does not make it worse, nothing makes it worse.
Important to the locker room? Now you're just reaching. Stajan takes alot of nights off. He doesn't play like a 4th liner should, and since he's not skilled enough for the top 9, how does he have a place on this team.

You say Stajan is only 1 million overpaid? I say if Stajan was expiring this year he would not be offered another contract. A guy like Jooris, Grant, or any number of players would be eating his ice time instead
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Alright maybe someone start a Stajan thread. Let's get this back on topic
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Alright maybe someone start a Stajan thread. Let's get this back on topic
Perhaps a "I wish this player was not on the team" thread instead? The Stajan one will get derailed with Smid, Raymond, etc. We all know this
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I heard mention on 960 that Janko is surprising in Stockton. Can anyone elaborate?
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I heard he's pretty quiet on his feet. He'll sneak up behind people and boom, there he is.
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I heard mention on 960 that Janko is surprising in Stockton. Can anyone elaborate?
I think they are referring to how quickly he has adapted to the pro game.

I think some people were expecting a 3rd line college player with loads of offensive zone starts and padded stats thanks to the powerplay to get exposed for the bust that he is.

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I think they are referring to how quickly he has adapted to the pro game.

I think some people where expecting a 3rd line college player with loads of offensive zone starts and padded stats thanks to the powerplay to get exposed for the bust that he is.
I've been thinking this for a while, but this post sealed it. AI is officially funnier than people
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Both Raymond and Smid are expiring. Raymond also gives a 0.900K reduction to his salary by playing in the AHL.
Raymond and Smid expire next year. Curious why you think Smid wouldn't count for a similar reduction.

Try making a different point.
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:57 PM   #439
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Top 10 problems

1. Lack of a true #1 goalie
2. Wideman's contract
3. Lack of top 6 wingers
4. Special teams
5. Raymond's contract
6. Smid's contract
7. Stajan's contract

Guess it's about 7th for me. Definitely not a pressing issue, every team can afford one mediocre midrange contract.
Flames Top 10 Problems:

1) Too Small and Soft
2) Lack of Top 6 Forwards
3) Wideman's contract
4) Special Teams
5) Goaltending
6) Lacking top end prospects
7) Smid's Contract
8) Raymond's Contract
9) Bouma's Contract
10) Expansion Draft
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Flames Top 10 Problems:

1) Too Small and Soft
2) Lack of Top 6 Forwards
3) Wideman's contract
4) Special Teams
5) Goaltending
6) Lacking top end prospects
7) Smid's Contract
8) Raymond's Contract
9) Bouma's Contract
10) Expansion Draft

I hope those aren't in any particular order, because goaltending should be #1, as in the biggest problem. At the very least it shouldn't be half way down the list.

Also, Bouma's contract should be replaced by Stajan's contract IMO.
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