2014 NHL Draft Combine May 26-31 aka the Pull-Up thread

[Robbob]

out of curiosity, has it been confirmed he didn't do any pull ups or was it just zero to the tests standards. Ie he did a couple pull ups but they didn't count because the form was off.

I'm also in the camp where I don't think at his age it is a huge issue. He is far from being fully developed athlete.

[puckedoff]

Originally Posted by Robbob

out of curiosity, has it been confirmed he didn't do any pull ups or was it just zero to the tests standards. Ie he did a couple pull ups but they didn't count because the form was off.

I'm also in the camp where I don't think at his age it is a huge issue. He is far from being fully developed athlete.

Couldn't do one, wasn't form. Theres video of pullupgate out there.

[StrykerSteve]

Holy hell, why the hell are we still talking about this? Next season cannot come soon enough.

[Flames89]

Bennett and I are equally skilled at one thing. Good to know.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Holy hell, why the hell are we still talking about this? Next season cannot come soon enough.

just finished moving so have been away from CP, so haven't commented on this, so pls forgive me....

Not sure how any amateur athlete with any kind of pro aspirations can't do a pullup, especially if him and his team (trainers/agent/etc) are prepped with what the combine tests are.

That being said, i don't think it would change my mind on him if he's available at #4. He's a kid who should be organically getting bigger/stronger with age, and is going to be training with NHL pro trainers, especially now that this info is likely going to follow him around for some time.

He's been able to achieve great hype due to his hockey achievements, seems there is great opportunity to potentially boost that even more should he be able to add more strength to his overall frame.

[the_professsor]

Maybe he intentionally failed to do a pull up, with hopes of decreasing draft position and sliding past the Oilers. I'd pretty much do anything to avoid getting drafted by those losers

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by the_professsor

Maybe he intentionally failed to do a pull up, with hopes of decreasing draft position and sliding past the Oilers. I'd pretty much do anything to avoid getting drafted by those losers

I'd laugh if he admitted that 20+ years down the road when he retires. "Yeah, I failed to do a pull up, hoping the Oilers would pass up on me."

[Hockey Fan #751]

Originally Posted by Flames89

The Great Pull-Up Debacle 2014 does make me think that the Oilers will have to take pause and consider Draisaitl. Bennett is exactly what they don't need.

How could anyone say that? Bennett is exactly what they do need. He's fiery, competitive, outstanding defensively. He just shouldn't be in the NHL next season.

Draisaitl on the other hand, he's big but he doesn't play well defensively. You could argue that's exactly what the Oilers don't need. On a team full of players who don't know how to play defence with a coaching staff that doesn't know how to teach defence, how is Draisaitl going to become a complete player in that environment?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751

How could anyone say that? Bennett is exactly what they do need. He's fiery, competitive, outstanding defensively. He just shouldn't be in the NHL next season.

Draisaitl on the other hand, he's big but he doesn't play well defensively. You could argue that's exactly what the Oilers don't need. On a team full of players who don't know how to play defence with a coaching staff that doesn't know how to teach defence, how is Draisaitl going to become a complete player in that environment?

Edmonton can't wait for Bennett to develop in the OHL another year. Draisaitl has a better chance to hit the NHL ice than Bennett. Draisaitl also has size, and would actually compliment the top 6 (assuming they slot him behind RNH).

[mile]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Edmonton can't wait for Bennett to develop in the OHL another year. Draisaitl has a better chance to hit the NHL ice than Bennett. Draisaitl also has size, and would actually compliment the top 6 (assuming they slot him behind RNH).

I don't know if another year in the OHL would necessarily be the reason why the Oilers pass on Bennett - they drafted Darnell Nurse and left him develop for another year in junior.

With that being said I still think if it came down to those two there is a slightly higher chance Edmonton takes Draisaitl.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by mile

I don't know if another year in the OHL would necessarily be the reason why the Oilers pass on Bennett - they drafted Darnell Nurse and left him develop for another year in junior.

With that being said I still think if it came down to those two there is a slightly higher chance Edmonton takes Draisaitl.

For once, they actually sent down a player for another year of development... But that is in defense, they think they have the greatest defensive prospect system, so they were able to send Nurse down. However, at center position, they still need that top 6 center, and Draisaitl can fit that role. RNH is small, Draisaitl is the opposite. It might take him a while to get used to top 6 minutes (since they'll just throw him in the lineup), but I think he could get used to it and put up at least 30 points for them.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751

How could anyone say that? Bennett is exactly what they do need. He's fiery, competitive, outstanding defensively. He just shouldn't be in the NHL next season.

Draisaitl on the other hand, he's big but he doesn't play well defensively. You could argue that's exactly what the Oilers don't need. On a team full of players who don't know how to play defence with a coaching staff that doesn't know how to teach defence, how is Draisaitl going to become a complete player in that environment?

You're doing it wrong.

(or are you an Oiler fan?)

[nik-]

Originally Posted by FAN

I don't think Bennett compares to Mike Richards at all. Bennett is a far superior skater with superior puck skills. Bennett enjoys the physical side of the game, but offensively I don't think he relies on playing a physical game at all.

His physical game is constantly mentioned as a big part of his game.

[nixon45]

23 more days of this.. only 23 more days.

[dammage79]

There's a Huggies joke in here somewhere .

[Igster]

Came for information about pull ups. Left satisfied.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by nixon45

23 more days of this.. only 23 more days.

There'll just be something else.

Chris "Minus a Billion" Butler, Brian "WHY U NO TRADE CAMMY?" Burke, Johnny "He'll never sign here" Gaudreau, Sam "Not Even One" Bennett.

There's allllllways something.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by AC

http://www.thestar.com/sports/2009/0...l_seasons.html

Apparently it was 2:

Read the whole of the article.... It was a significant problem..... By the time he broke into the Flames as regular player... 3 years after he was drafted #12 overall he was doing a lot of pull ups and he thought it was important.

He was called out and embarrassed at his first training camp by Coach Johnson...... next year he came back and did 16.

The highest total at this year's combine was 13.

You think that the Flames are planning for the #4 pick to play 2 more years of juniors and half a season in the AHL?

In 1984 , the year Roberts was drafted, Guy Lafluer was probably still enjoying smoking a cigarette or 2 during the intermission while popping in 30 goals.

Times have changed.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751

How could anyone say that? Bennett is exactly what they do need. He's fiery, competitive, outstanding defensively. He just shouldn't be in the NHL next season.

Draisaitl on the other hand, he's big but he doesn't play well defensively. You could argue that's exactly what the Oilers don't need. On a team full of players who don't know how to play defence with a coaching staff that doesn't know how to teach defence, how is Draisaitl going to become a complete player in that environment?

He had a good +/- in both his junior years on a so-so team.

[Locke]

Even I can do one pull-up.

Actually, thats probably not true.

In fact, thats a complete lie.