American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I have never heard of project 2025 until today. I agree looks like its probably a thing based on the one screen shot from fuzz and having spent zero other time looking into it.



I will ask though, How is this any different then the WEF conspiracy theory? all the facts for that also being a agenda are well discussed.

Project 2025 was literally drafted by a dozen+ current and former Trump staffers.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-pro...056e7ccc5baf23

[Muta]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Here is the 1,000 page document https://static.project2025.org/2025_...rship_FULL.pdf


And here is a leading conservative commentator's tweet after Trump and other conservatives denied knowing anything about Project 2025:

Spoiler!

(screencap, because I won't link to Twitter anymore)

My real deep-rooted annoyance with that statement is that they KNOW Project 2025 is unpopular, constantly denied it during the election, but obviously want to implement it. They were too chicken#### to campaign on it openly, which is 100% confirmed admittance it is not a popular agenda - they couldn't even straight up be honest with their MAGA cult and say yes, this is our agenda. Too scared to admit it even to their most hardcore supporters.

####, MAGA and the charlatans at the top who manipulate them are just the worst. What a disgusting and deplorable group of human beings. America is ####ed.

[Julio]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I have never heard of project 2025 until today. I agree looks like its probably a thing based on the one screen shot from fuzz and having spent zero other time looking into it.



I will ask though, How is this any different then the WEF conspiracy theory? all the facts for that also being a agenda are well discussed.

Short answer is that Project 2025 was devised by a group of conservative staffers to put forward a coherent and focused set of policies and actions to carry out the 'MAGA agenda', in contrast to the often scattered and ineffective way that the first Trump administration governed, in particular in the first years after Trump was first elected.

[puffnstuff]

I am quite sure you can go thru project 2025 and line it up exactly with all of trumps day one executive orders.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I have never heard of project 2025 until today. I agree looks like its probably a thing based on the one screen shot from fuzz and having spent zero other time looking into it.



I will ask though, How is this any different then the WEF conspiracy theory? all the facts for that also being a agenda are well discussed.

LOL I mean the biggest difference is that nobody is claiming the existence of the WEF is a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories use the WEF as a focal point. But we’re talking about actual facts here.

Since you took the initiative to call Project 2025 a conspiracy and take a shot at Fuzz, why don’t you do the work and explain why it is?

EDIT: And hell, maybe explain why you thought something you “had never heard of” and apparently hadn’t looked into at all was a conspiracy?

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Book readin' is for commies.

I get my news from Facebook, X (The Everything App) and ONN like any meat eatin American with a hard dick.

[CroFlames]

This is also happening today in the United States of the Reich.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/trum...ion-ogles.html

Trump "has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation's decay and restoring America to greatness, and he must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal,"

"I am proposing an amendment to the Constitution to revise the limitations imposed by the 22nd Amendment on presidential terms," he added.

Will conservative posters call this a conspiracy also? Every mainstream (and non mainstream) media outlet are reporting on this.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I have never heard of project 2025 until today. I agree looks like its probably a thing based on the one screen shot from fuzz and having spent zero other time looking into it.



I will ask though, How is this any different then the WEF conspiracy theory? all the facts for that also being a agenda are well discussed.

If you just heard of it now, you must not have been paying a lot of attention to U.S. politics over the past few years. It's been reported on a lot and even Trump acknowledged the existence of it when asked, although he denied involvement.

Which is fine if you weren't paying attention, I don't blame you. There are only so many things one can pay attention to and people have different interests and priorities, but Project 2025 wasn't some secret or something that internet conspiracists exploited a screenshot of. It was basically developed by MAGA supporters as a presidential policy that could be pitched to Trump and unpacked quickly if he were re-elected. I do actually believe Trump when he said he didn't commission it or ask for it, but he certainly seems to be applying it.

[Muta]

Cro - holy crap, I hope people don't fall for that. What an abomination of western democratic principles.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If you just heard of it now, you must not have been paying a lot of attention to U.S. politics over the past few years. It's been reported on a lot and even Trump acknowledged the existence of it when asked, although he denied involvement.

Which is fine if you weren't paying attention, I don't blame you. There are only so many things one can pay attention to and people have different interests and priorities, but Project 2025 wasn't some secret or something that internet conspiracists exploited a screenshot of. It was basically developed by MAGA supporters as a presidential policy that could be pitched to Trump and unpacked quickly if he were re-elected. I do actually believe Trump when he said he didn't commission it or ask for it, but he certainly seems to be applying it.

The president of Project 2025 didn’t believe it, said there was no hard feelings and Trump was just saying what he needed to say to get elected. This is after members of Trump’s team had already praised it and said it aligned closely with their own agenda.

Trump has proceeded to fill government roles with people involved in the project and has be following it diligently with executive orders since getting elected.

I don’t think there’s any reason to believe Trump was being honest at the time.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

This is also happening today in the United States of the Reich.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/trum...ion-ogles.html

Will conservative posters call this a conspiracy also? Every mainstream (and non mainstream) media outlet are reporting on this.

Naturally, it's worded to exclude the other living Presidents who've already served 2 terms because if Obama became eligible again he'd destroy Trump in an election. The proposed amendment states that Presidents can't serve more than 3 terms, or 2 terms if those 2 terms were consecutive.

Obviously it has zero chance of succeeding, but the level of sycophancy in the Republican party really is something to behold.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

You don't have to immediately fill Mel's role now that they are gone

When one falls, another takes its place.

as it is written

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I have never heard of project 2025 until today. I agree looks like its probably a thing based on the one screen shot from fuzz and having spent zero other time looking into it.



I will ask though, How is this any different then the WEF conspiracy theory? all the facts for that also being a agenda are well discussed.

One is real, and being pushed by right wing sycophants.

One is fake, and being pushed by right wing sycophants.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I have never heard of project 2025 until today. I agree looks like its probably a thing based on the one screen shot from fuzz and having spent zero other time looking into it.



I will ask though, How is this any different then the WEF conspiracy theory? all the facts for that also being a agenda are well discussed.

Bizarre. It was a constant topic in this past election cycle. Many articles and political pundits were discussing the document and how closely the Trump administration may adhere to the recommended policies inside.

Any of us that have regularly followed news and politics know about this as short hand now. I don't think anyone in this thread other than yourself would not have at least heard of it until today.

So, it stands to reason, either you are being false, or you're completely ignorant. Either way, running around throwing stones at Fuzz as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty egregious if you haven't taken the time to at least learn about this topic.

Also, it's not a conspiracy if it's out in the open with published documents. I think you misunderstand the term.

[Engine09]

There is a load of christian nationalist horsehit in Project 2025 as well, last thing we need are those hateful, delusional nutjobs influencing anything. Such a step backwards, just repulsive.

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

This is also happening today in the United States of the Reich.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/23/trum...ion-ogles.html





Will conservative posters call this a conspiracy also? Every mainstream (and non mainstream) media outlet are reporting on this.

Plot twist: Zombie Grover Cleveland arises and uses the new loophole to win in a landslide.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Bizarre. It was a constant topic in this past election cycle. Many articles and political pundits were discussing the document and how closely the Trump administration may adhere to the recommended policies inside.

Any of us that have regularly followed news and politics know about this as short hand now. I don't think anyone in this thread other than yourself would not have at least heard of it until today.

So, it stands to reason, either you are being false, or you're completely ignorant. Either way, running around throwing stones at Fuzz as a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty egregious if you haven't taken the time to at least learn about this topic.

Also, it's not a conspiracy if it's out in the open with published documents. I think you misunderstand the term.

#### I am sure it has been talked about in this thread previous, many times

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

The president of Project 2025 didn’t believe it, said there was no hard feelings and Trump was just saying what he needed to say to get elected. This is after members of Trump’s team had already praised it and said it aligned closely with their own agenda.

Trump has proceeded to fill government roles with people involved in the project and has be following it diligently with executive orders since getting elected.

I don’t think there’s any reason to believe Trump was being honest at the time.

Fair, I missed those comments. I just recalled Trump saying some of the stuff in Project 2025 was too extreme even for him, which is kind of funny now seeing how he ramped up after securing the election win.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Muffins

Plot twist: Zombie Grover Cleveland arises and uses the new loophole to win in a landslide.

He issued Tariff reform, urging free trade. He colluded with J.P. Morgan to increase the value of U.S. Bonds to keep the treasury afloat. He was known as a hard "union buster". He stole land from native reservations.

So...pretty much par for the course with the exception of tariffs.

[Looch City]

Don't understand all this fuss with Project 2025. Project 2016 is ####ing horrible to use and badly needs a major refresh and overhaul.

I'm looking forward to the new features of Project 2025. Maybe finally I can assign resources correctly without it ####ing up.