05-25-2016, 07:14 PM
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#4361
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Penticton, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Yeah 7 so far. Just surprised to see Gauthier early.
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I highly doubt the Flames media crew has any contact with the scouting department.
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05-25-2016, 07:26 PM
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#4362
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erratik
With the Canucks dealing McCann for Gudbranson, does that make it even more likely they look for a center this draft?
What if the Oilers take Dubois? Does Vancouver reach for Brown at 5?
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I would think that makes sense. I know Canucks fans were talking about management wanting a defenseman, well they just got that. Center now seems to be their biggest need. Brown seems like the perfect fit.
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05-25-2016, 07:31 PM
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#4363
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
I would think that makes sense. I know Canucks fans were talking about management wanting a defenseman, well they just got that. Center now seems to be their biggest need. Brown seems like the perfect fit.
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The Canucks do have Sedin, Horvat, Sutter, and Granlund so it wouldn't shock me if they took Tkachuk if he is there over Brown
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05-25-2016, 07:36 PM
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#4364
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by polak
I'd add Wotherspoon in a heart beat but the guy is topping out as a bubble player. You'll need way more than that imo.
6th + Backlund would probably do it and I personally would veto that all the way to veto town and park it in vetoville next to Where R U Chris Sullivan
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it was the 6th + before the playoffs... one can only imagine the cost of acquisition of Drouin has gone up since that point in time.
it would definitely have to be the 6th and a high prospect....not sure if Wotherspoon would be enough... and not sure if they would want a backlund over a higher prospect...
would he be worth it? tough question... he's looked phenomenal in the playoffs, but its a short tourney; who knows if he can sustain it over a season. However, the 6th is just a lottery ticket for TB - no gaurantee that pick even makes the NHL whereas Drouin is already an NHL player with lots of upside
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05-25-2016, 08:53 PM
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#4365
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
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I think this is a great year to be picking in the 10-12 area as it's pretty well guaranteed that one or two of Jost, Brown, Keller, McLeod will be available for the picking. A guy like Jost could turn out better than the player the Flames take but it's one of those things where you have to take a leap of faith to pick him at 6.
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05-25-2016, 09:20 PM
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#4366
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I mentioned this in the trade thread... but I wonder if this makes it more palatable for Vancouver to swap us 5 for 6 + a 2nd?
Their lack of picks in this draft has to be concerning for them...
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05-25-2016, 09:23 PM
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#4367
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
I mentioned this in the trade thread... but I wonder if this makes it more palatable for Vancouver to swap us 5 for 6 + a 2nd?
Their lack of picks in this draft has to be concerning for them...
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One spot upgrade isn't worth that much IMO. More like Wotherspoon+6 for 5. They might actually be interested in that because their defensive depth is so atrocious. Then again, their wings are bad too, and they've got a moron running things so it's really hard to say.
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05-25-2016, 09:26 PM
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#4368
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
One spot upgrade isn't worth that much IMO. More like Wotherspoon+6 for 5. They might actually be interested in that because their defensive depth is so atrocious. Then again, their wings are bad too, and they've got a moron running things so it's really hard to say.
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For a late 2nd I'm not so sure. Depends on how badly we want whoever still might be available at 5. Maybe Vancouver can add a later pick to even it out a bit more.
Or their 2017 2nd.
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05-25-2016, 09:31 PM
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#4369
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
I mentioned this in the trade thread... but I wonder if this makes it more palatable for Vancouver to swap us 5 for 6 + a 2nd?
Their lack of picks in this draft has to be concerning for them...
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The only reason why it would make sense to move up one spot is if you want the same player.
And if you do want the same player, they won't want to trade it to you unless you overpay for it.
Pointless trade, IMO.
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05-25-2016, 09:33 PM
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#4370
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The only reason why it would make sense to move up one spot is if you want the same player.
And if you do want the same player, they won't want to trade it to you unless you overpay for it.
Pointless trade, IMO.
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You'd basically be giving them an asset to not select your guy. If Vancouver liked two players equally and Calgary liked one the best, there might be a deal there.
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05-25-2016, 09:45 PM
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#4371
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The only reason why it would make sense to move up one spot is if you want the same player.
And if you do want the same player, they won't want to trade it to you unless you overpay for it.
Pointless trade, IMO.
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The chances of them sharing who they both want seems unlikely.
Again I think it comes down to how badly the Flames want whoever is still available at 5. If it's someone they're uncertain will still be available after Vancouver picks I'd have no problem if it wasn't a crazy over-payment, and the point here is now Vancouver might be a bit more desperate to recoup picks in this draft because they've handed them out like candy.
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05-25-2016, 09:54 PM
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#4372
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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wrong thread
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05-26-2016, 01:45 AM
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#4374
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Why do the Canucks have a ranking that even goes to 6 if they're picking #5?
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05-26-2016, 01:54 AM
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#4375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
Why do the Canucks have a ranking that even goes to 6 if they're picking #5?
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In case there's trades?
Pretty sure all teams map out their rankings pretty far into the draft to cover a multitude of scenarios that could play out.
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05-26-2016, 02:52 AM
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#4376
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: 403
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05-26-2016, 02:59 AM
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#4377
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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It depends on how things shake down, but I could see if Gauthier is still on the board at say 23-25, the Flames could move up to get him.
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05-26-2016, 10:36 AM
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#4378
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
It depends on how things shake down, but I could see if Gauthier is still on the board at say 23-25, the Flames could move up to get him.
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He's a really interesting prospect. Big, physical, quick, shoot first RS RW, pretty much exactly what we need. His goals per game was pretty ridiculous this year, even considering he had a pretty bad 2nd half of the season. Only draft eligible to make TC at the WJ's too, pretty impressive.
I guess the biggest knock on the guy is that his IQ isn't the highest and there are consistency issues with his game.
Probably can't carry a line by himself, but it doesn't really matter if you line him up with a good passer, kid knows how to score and you can't really teach that (he has a ridiculous release/shot). I see a james neal type player in him.
As Conroy said, only time it makes sense to trade up is if a guy on our list is at 15 or so and is available in the low 20's. I highly doubt he falls out of the top 20. With that being said, if we came outta the first round with Tkachuk and Gauthier, I'd be ecstatic
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05-26-2016, 12:13 PM
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#4379
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Franchise Player
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We come out of the draft with Tkachuk and Gauthier and there should be a parade for Treliving. That would be an epic win for the Flames.
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05-26-2016, 12:17 PM
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#4380
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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^ I'd prefer coming out of the draft with the three of Dubois, Thompson, and Morrison.
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