2024 NHL Draft Thread

[sketchyt]

I've watched nearly 0 minutes of any of these guys discussed.

For those who have actually paid attention, outside of Celebrini, which player(s) could potentially play in the NHL right away?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by sketchyt

I've watched nearly 0 minutes of any of these guys discussed.

For those who have actually paid attention, outside of Celebrini, which player(s) could potentially play in the NHL right away?

I honestly don't know outside of Demidov and Levshunov. Maybe Helenius? Lindstrom has the speed and size already but he needs a clean season in the W.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Drafting #9 and using it to get a potential 3rd pairing defenceman would be deflating. You can find those guys in the market.

Would you call a much better skating, 6’7” Robyn Regehr a 3rd pairing defenceman?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Would you call a much better skating, 6’7” Robyn Regehr a 3rd pairing defenceman?

In todays NHL? Yes

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You are both right, but the team needs a massive infusion of speed and skill into the lineup.

Drafting #9 and using it to get a potential 3rd pairing defenceman would be deflating. You can find those guys in the market.

Scoring, speed, and skill is much harder to find and they are usually drafted.

There are roles on a team. You need everyone to play them, and you only have so many guys that can play certain spots.

Morin, Brewsky and Porier all could be PP dmen. Weegar is a good all-around dman. We need to star shut down player. Ekblad is decent, no? Had 18 points this year, but he matches up against elite forwards, star on the PK and is useful on the PP/offensively. We aren't winning with 6 Tyson Barrie's/Kevin Shattenkirk's

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by sketchyt

I've watched nearly 0 minutes of any of these guys discussed.

For those who have actually paid attention, outside of Celebrini, which player(s) could potentially play in the NHL right away?

I haven’t watched him play, but Dickinson is regarded as the most NHL-ready of the d-men. Which is why, despite questions around how high his ceiling is, there’s a good chance he’ll get grabbed by a team like Ottawa or Utah looking to improve sooner rather than later.

[bdubbs]

Timing is right for us to not have to worry about seats at the dome anyway, with the new arena coming. Silayev, if he checks enough of the Flames boxes, will be a fine pick and a potentially elite one if he lives up to the positive-leaning opinions of him. Flames will be bad at least until the new arena is in place and the bump from that new building plus an up and coming young team might mean we don't care about this pick not being the sexy offensive star by then.

I think next year's draft is the most important as far as picking high and finding that #1 center.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

In todays NHL? Yes

The top four defencemen by TOI/G in the Stanley Cup finals and their regular-season points:

Bouchard 82
Ekholm 45
Forsling 39
Ekblad 18

Are Ekholm, Forsling, and Ekblad third-pairing players in today’s NHL?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

In todays NHL? Yes

What about a 6'7 Chris Tanev? I don't really want Silayev either but it's not really a high floor, low ceiling pick. If he hits he is a #1 Dman

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Bonded

What about a 6'7 Chris Tanev? I don't really want Silayev either but it's not really a high floor, low ceiling pick. If he hits he is a #1 Dman

Meh I'd rather grab Catton and then EJ Emery at 28 if we want another tanev

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

There are roles on a team. You need everyone to play them, and you only have so many guys that can play certain spots.

Morin, Brewsky and Porier all could be PP dmen. Weegar is a good all-around dman. We need to star shut down player. Ekblad is decent, no? Had 18 points this year, but he matches up against elite forwards, star on the PK and is useful on the PP/offensively. We aren't winning with 6 Tyson Barrie's/Kevin Shattenkirk's

18 points in 51 games.

I am aware that we need good players, but filling out the bottom 6 or 3rd pairing would not be exciting with the #9 pick.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

18 points in 51 games.

I am aware that we need good players, but filling out the bottom 6 or 3rd pairing would not be exciting with the #9 pick.

He could be bottom pairing with the potential to be top pairing. Tanev a bottom pairing dman? He played with Heskinen most the playoffs and switched to play with Harley to balance out their d in the Oilers series

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The top four defencemen by TOI/G in the Stanley Cup finals and their regular-season points:

Bouchard 82
Ekholm 45
Forsling 39
Ekblad 18

Are Ekholm, Forsling, and Ekblad third-pairing players in today’s NHL?

We have to be careful when talking about Oiler defenceman. When we see them play without McDavid we can properly assess them.

No the rest are not 3rd pairing defenceman, but I am not going to believe a guy that has had questionable offence even playing kids his age is worth the risk at 9.

Maybe I am still scarred from the Hunter Smith's of the world and Keegan Kanzig.

What do I know.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

How about a lower scoring, less physical Zadorov?

You can certainly choose your own level of expectation.

I'm just happen to be in the other camp.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You are both right, but the team needs a massive infusion of speed and skill into the lineup.

Drafting #9 and using it to get a potential 3rd pairing defenceman would be deflating. You can find those guys in the market.

Scoring, speed, and skill is much harder to find and they are usually drafted.

Would be equally as upsetting to end up with a third line winger though right?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Meh I'd rather grab Catton and then EJ Emery at 28 if we want another tanev

I totally agree but Silayev's upside isn't a third pairing dman. If he is there when the Flames pick I would be zero percent surprised if they took him though.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Would be equally as upsetting to end up with a third line winger though right?

Yes it would be.

I think Iginla is going to be a star. I am also down on Lindstrom.

The size and skating is great, the injuries are not especially back injuries for big guys who can protect the puck who will constantly get cross checked.

I like the other defenceman like Dickinson, because we have more information about their game.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

He could be bottom pairing with the potential to be top pairing. Tanev a bottom pairing dman? He played with Heskinen most the playoffs and switched to play with Harley to balance out their d in the Oilers series

Right but how many guys that size have been effective NHL players from the backend?

Chara? Pronger?

Kind of rare no?

[Bingo]

One update / one new ranking.

Now 22 rankings in the mix.

Ranking Average top 11

M Celebrini	C	1.00

Ivan Demidov	RW	2.68

A Levshunov	D	4.59

Zeev Buium	D	6.45

C Lindstrom	C	7.23
Berkly Catton	C	7.32
Sam Dickinson	D	7.36

Zayne Parekh	D	8.23

Anton Silayev	D	9.32

Konsta Helenius	C	10.18
Tij Iginla	C	10.23

Flames at 9

Flames	7	Sam Dickinson	D
Flames	8	Zayne Parekh	D
Flames	9	Anton Silayev	D
Flames	10	Konsta Helenius	C
Flames	11	Tij Iginla	C

Flames at 28

Flames	26	Ryder Ritchie	RW
Flames	27	Jett Luchanko	C
Flames	28	E.J. Emery	D
Flames	29	Teddy Stiga	F
Flames	30	Henry Mews	D

Flames at 41

Flames	26	Ryder Ritchie	RW
Flames	27	Jett Luchanko	C
Flames	28	E.J. Emery	D
Flames	29	Teddy Stiga	F
Flames	30	Henry Mews	D

Flames at 64

Flames	62	Luca Marrelli	D
Flames	63	Justin Poirier	RW
Flames	64	Will Skahan	D
Flames	65	Sam O'Reilly	F
Flames	66	Simon Zether	F

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I like the other defenceman like Dickinson, because we have more information about their game.

Which is kind of funny because he is the safe pick with questionable upside