2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

......until playoffs......

He most certainly had some high end company that were far more disappointing.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by timbit

He most certainly had some high end company that were far more disappointing.

He also happens to be the Flames leading playoff scorer over the past four appearances.

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[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It is such a big year for this core and I don’t think there is much rope left at all with the superstar duo that has lead this team for the last half decade. Monahan and Gaudreau proved when they were one of the truly elite combos in the league the Flames were a 1st place team and would have with anyone.

Gaudreau ended up with 99pts and Monahan 82 but remember in the peak of that season both were on pace for 100+pts along with Lindholm pacing in the 90’s. If that combo or that line could ever sustain that for most of a season the Flames are a top 5 team in the league easily.

The consensus among hockey fans and critics is Monahan and Gaudreau are good, not great players and the Flames are a good, not great team. I think many thought that after a second first round loss (and 3rd in 4 years with a playoff miss) they were going to trade one or both of these players. Personally I was convinced it would happen but I guess the right deals haven’t materialized.

If the Flames were able to get peak Gaudreau and Monahan back along with their upgraded goaltending I think they would be first place in either the Pacific or Canadian division.

I think this is what we have to hope for. The odds of us making a hockey deal that improves the team seems unlikely. The odds of a "futures" package is even less likely. The odds of them getting back to being a top line in the NHL? I wouldn't bet on it but I think it's most likely we start the season this way so hopefully they can at least be better than last season. Let Gaudreau and Monahan be a second line and give them better match ups and opportunities. These guys are one dimensional offensive players who aren't great at defence so put them in positions to excel at that and stop worrying so much about them having an all around game. Hopefully the team as a whole can pick up that slack.

[Bourque's Twin]

Even though Monahan scores more points, Langkow helps you win hockey games way more.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I’d love to see Tkachuk and Monahan paired up. It’s time other players benefited from Gaudreau and having Monahan work on his own line.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Even though Monahan scores more points, Langkow helps you win hockey games way more.

Langkow was 28-years-old when he arrived in Calgary, and Monahan has just turned 26. I bet there is still more to Monahan's game that we haven't seen yet.

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[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by timbit

He most certainly had some high end company that were far more disappointing.

In 30 playoff games, Gaudreau has 8 goals and Monahan 10. I don’t know about “far more disappointing” but I also don’t think the what about argument does much good here. They have both been sub par in the playoffs. IMO Gaudreau was the better of the two this year but not against CO or Anaheim.

But maybe you’re referring to Gio here, who has maybe been the worst of the three.

It’s not a pretty picture for the teams stars in the playoffs.

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by timbit

He most certainly had some high end company that were far more disappointing.

That's the problem with putting high end expectations on players that aren't high end talents. We have two high end talents in Gaudreau and Tkachuk... two LWs. Gio too but I was talking up front. None of Monahan, Lindholm or Backlund are high end imo... our 3 top centers, if you count Lindy as a C and honestly he is a better technical C than Monahan but still not a true 1C. That is the crux of the team's problem. You can't have an average collection of centers and expect to beat teams with a true 1C in a best of 7. Maybe Monahan has some room to grow, he is only 24, but we need a quantum leap from him and I dont think that's a fair expectation at this point.

It's weird, he ended up exactly the opposite of what I expected when we drafted him. I was thinking a cerebral, two way playmaker that could drive the play. Did not expect him to develop into hovering opportunist, a one-way offensive specialist/sniper. If Monahan was a Russian kid, I swear this fanbase would have had him out of town long ago.

I think fans expectations of a few of our players is out of whack tbh. And Gaudreau may be elite but name me another elite winger who won a SC without an elite 1C.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Langkow was 28-years-old when he arrived in Calgary, and Monahan has just turned 26. I bet there is still more to Monahan's game that we haven't seen yet.

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Or Backlund, who sort of emerged at age 24 with a bigger role on a bad team, but didn't really start his prime until age 26

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Even though Monahan scores more points, Langkow helps you win hockey games way more.

Langkow had how many playoff series wins in Calgary? How many first in the west seasons in Calgary?

[Eric Vail]

I hoped that the Hanifan to Boston rumour would get discussed in this thread.

Given that Hanifin is only soon-to-be 24-years-old, and under a very reasonable contract for the next four seasons at $4.95 million, the package heading back to Calgary will be significant. Would Jake DeBrusk and John Moore be enough? Not likely, but that would definitely be a conversation starter.

Keep an eye on the Calgary Flames as they are finished plucking players from the Vancouver Canucks and have moved on to the rosters of other teams.

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2020/1...to-bruins.html

What do you think?

[TheScorpion]

I would probably be looking at Brandon Carlo and something.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I hoped that the Hanifan to Boston rumour would get discussed in this thread.



https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2020/1...to-bruins.html

What do you think?

I really like Jake Debrusk but I think he plays LW so that might put him on the 4th line?

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I would probably be looking at Brandon Carlo and something.

That's what these guys say:

One of the teams rumored to be interested is the Boston Bruins and there’s talk that maybe Brandon Carlo could be the player moved in that deal. He makes $2.1 million less than Hanifin. The Detroit Red Wings, Buffalo Sabres and Columbus Blue Jackets are also teams that might be interested if Hanifin is available.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-rum...ember-10-2020/

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I hoped that the Hanifan to Boston rumour would get discussed in this thread.



https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2020/1...to-bruins.html

What do you think?

I brought this up a few pages back but it didn’t get discussed much..

I think Hanifin for Carlo would be a smart move to not only open up cap space but shift the strength of our d core from the left side to the right.

I would still feel comfortable with Gio, Valimaki, Kylington, Mackey, Nesterov, Poolman etc. as lefties if it meant stacking our right side with 2 young top 4 guys and a vet in Tanev.

I feel like we have a lot of puck moving dmen as well so adding a guy like Carlo while also opening more opportunity for Valimaki, Kylington and Mackey is a good gamble.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Maybe Monahan has some room to grow, he is only 24, but we need a quantum leap from him and I dont think that's a fair expectation at this point.

He likely doesn’t have much more runway as he is 26.

Not that it affects the rest of your opinion.


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[MrMike]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’d love to see Tkachuk and Monahan paired up. It’s time other players benefited from Gaudreau and having Monahan work on his own line.

I thought the best Gaudreau was playing last year was when he was juggled throughout the line-up double shifted. He looked great playing with Lucic.

I'd like something like this with making adjustments throughout the game.

Dube - Monahan - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Backlund - Lindholm
Gaudreau - Bennett - Lucic

[loob job]

I watched a Bruins practice two years ago. Carlo and Mcavoy were the only two on the ice and we didn't know who Carlo was at the time. He was alot smoother and way quicker than Mcavoy who is known for his skating.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’d love to see Tkachuk and Monahan paired up. It’s time other players benefited from Gaudreau and having Monahan work on his own line.

I’d like that proposed pairing a lot better if either had good wheels.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Hanifin and a sweetener for Carlo and Debrusk? Then move Gaudreau for Gostisbehere, Frost, and Foerster. Profit!!!