The New American Politics thread

[Nobama]

Originally Posted by Parallex

You don't know how free trade benefits the economy? I don't have time to give you an economics lesson but let's just say that the alternative is stagflation due to the inflationary effect of tariffs on products and the job losses that will result from retaliatory action on the part of other nations.

The solution to a trade imbalance is to up your exports (which helps everyone world wide) nor regressionist protectionism *which hurts everyone).

As most people who are anti trump you have gone to the extreme in describing what Trump actually wants to do. Like you stated he wants to increase exports, however one way to do that is by bring American companies back to America. The current administration have chased away manufacturing. Ford, Dodge, Nabisco, etc are moving manufacturing to Mexico. That hurts the USA on the jobs front, as well GDP. Let's talk about Energy. The current administration has abandoned the campaign promise of becoming energy independent. Now they have moved us into a situation where the US will be paying even more billions to OPEC for energy in the coming years. On every front the US is getting decimated in trade and IMO this will bankrupt the country if something isn't done.

And by the way - Protectionism in trade - every country practices some level of protectionism. Canada included. At the end of the day a country needs to act in the best intrest of its own citizens. This is reality.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Nobama

As most people who are anti trump you have gone to the extreme in describing what Trump actually wants to do. Like you stated he wants to increase exports, however one way to do that is by bring American companies back to America. The current administration have chased away manufacturing. Ford, Dodge, Nabisco, etc are moving manufacturing to Mexico. That hurts the USA on the jobs front, as well GDP. Let's talk about Energy. The current administration has abandoned the campaign promise of becoming energy independent. Now they have moved us into a situation where the US will be paying even more billions to OPEC for energy in the coming years. On every front the US is getting decimated in trade and IMO this will bankrupt the country if something isn't done.

And by the way - Protectionism in trade - every country practices some level of protectionism. Canada included. At the end of the day a country needs to act in the best intrest of its own citizens. This is reality.

Trump is on record staying he wants to put 35% tariffs on all goes manufactured in certain countries. He wants to kill terrorists families. He's got a big penis.


He's actually said all those things. You try to add nuance, but there wasn't any when he said it

[Ducay]

Tremendous votes today in Louisiana, Kansas, and Kentucky for Trump. Today is the day where we find out what impact the Romney attacks, debate attacks, KKK, yuge penis, and brokered conventional plans have on the race.

I don't see much chance LA falls to Cruz, but Kansas could, and there isn't much polling out of Kentucky, so it really is an unknown.

Number of delegates at play today isn't the big story, but really as indicator of where the election is heading when we hit the 15th and the winner-take-all states begin.


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[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by T@T

I have a hard time believing Sanders is going to have someone making $10m a year (pro athlete for example) paying 63.7% federal tax. If that's the case all the free agents will flock to Canada.

Did affluent Americans flock out of the country back in the 60s and 70s when income tax was as high, or higher, than Sanders is proposing?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

I'm not sure if my comment came across wrong, I'm fully in favor of Bernie's plan, of a more Canadian plan in general. I was agreeing with his idea--yes it raises taxes, but it eliminates many of the excessive healthcare costs that Americans have to deal with. The US already pays an insane amount for healthcare per capita as it is, so it makes no sense for us to not ensure that everyone has access to healthcare. Beyond that, by introducing a medicare for all system, hopefully it would mean that we could start to negotiate down the cost of healthcare services and medications in this country.

A report came out yesterday that Sanders tax plan would raise $15.5 trillion.

That is enough to pay off a HUGE chunk of the debt.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Azure

A report came out yesterday that Sanders tax plan would raise $15.5 trillion.

That is enough to pay off a HUGE chunk of the debt.

But conservatives don't want to pay the debt, they want other people to pay the debt. To them, it's not the endless war machine causing the debt, it's not the ridiculous tax breaks given to corporations causing the debt...nope, it's those damn SNAP programs that make sure the most vulnerable Americans don't starve to death that are at fault.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Tremendous votes today in Louisiana, Kansas, and Kentucky for Trump. Today is the day where we find out what impact the Romney attacks, debate attacks, KKK, yuge penis, and brokered conventional plans have on the race.

I don't see much chance LA falls to Cruz, but Kansas could, and there isn't much polling out of Kentucky, so it really is an unknown.

Number of delegates at play today isn't the big story, but really as indicator of where the election is heading when we hit the 15th and the winner-take-all states begin.



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And Maine, too!

If Trump wins big today, then reading the meaning is easy: he's just streamrolling everything. But if he does poorly (let's say, wins Louisiana but loses at least a couple others and finishes in the low 30s in overall support), it's going to be difficult to tell how much is impact of attack ads and negative press, and how much is the difference of a general disadvantage in closed caucus systems.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

But conservatives don't want to pay the debt, they want other people to pay the debt. To them, it's not the endless war machine causing the debt, it's not the ridiculous tax breaks given to corporations causing the debt...nope, it's those damn SNAP programs that make sure the most vulnerable Americans don't starve to death that are at fault.

Obviously paying off the debt shouldn't be expected right now, but you'd think the US could at least run a balanced budget pretty easily if they taxed people and companies a little more fairly.

[calgarygeologist]

Sounds like Hillary is going to get destroyed today in the Nebraska caucuses today. Hopefully Bernie can do well in Louisiana as well.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Last Louisiana poll has Bernie down 50 points. So I'm not sure what doing well would even look like. Most recent Michigan poll also has him down big. Hill keeps getting steeper to climb.

[2Stonedbirds]

Rand Paul was the only candidate from either side that was actually campaigning on whittling down the national debt.

Sanders would bring in extra tax dollars which would be needed for his proposed social programs.

[octothorp]

Kansas caucus returns starting to come in now, and very early on, it looks good for Cruz. There's a chance he becomes the first republican in any state to break 50%.

[Looch City]

Anyone watching the Trump rally in Florida?

Insane. He's absolutely bat#### crazy. Just babbles on about nothingness then starts a USA chant. Like what the ####??

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Anyone watching the Trump rally in Florida?

Insane. He's absolutely bat#### crazy. Just babbles on about nothingness then starts a USA chant. Like what the ####??

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

None of these people seemed to notice.

[troutman]

Cruz winning Kansas and Maine.

Kentucky too on exit polls.

[Kavvy]

Sorry, I ask this alot in this thread -

For Dems and Repb - any of these states today winner take all?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

None of these people seemed to notice.

Ba ha ha. Jesus. All this talk of calling him Hitler and a fascist is a little much (because Hitler was Hitler, and a fascist actually believes in something) but didn't these morons even consider the optics of this?

What a bunch of stooges.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Rand Paul was the only candidate from either side that was actually campaigning on whittling down the national debt.

Sanders would bring in extra tax dollars which would be needed for his proposed social programs.

Universal health care would save money long-term.

Either way its not about reducing the debt as much as growing the economy.

But given how much the US spends and what the deficit is at right now, the US could easily balance the budget with small increases in taxes and less pork.

Run a $100 billion dollar surplus per year. Use that to slowly pay off debt.

[Senator Clay Davis]

For as nice as it is to see Trump knocked down a peg or two tonight, sucks it has to be Cruz who's doing it. Trump really has been so loud and attention seeking it's hidden how much worse an option Cruz is. Trump has to go off on him now that he's the clear number one threat.